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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsStepping back for a bit about Melania: who do you think is responsible?
Do you think it was she who lied about her degree or did she go along with the lie that Yammie concocted?
Do you think it was she who "dropped those lines from Michelle's 2008 speech" into her own or was it all concocted by some handler (at Manafort's direction), leaving her to (most likely) unknowingly deliver them on the world's stage?
I think, in both cases, she is not the originator of the problems. I also think she knows full well the company she keeps and is, in that sense, fully responsible for what has been said.
global1
(25,303 posts)rurallib
(62,492 posts)along with a pre-nup. So don't wait too long.
GeorgeGist
(25,327 posts)might be a clue.
underpants
(183,071 posts)They can't fire anyone because there is next to no one in the actual campaign.
Willie Geist showed back up and said that Trump won't apologize and will blame the media.
Moostache
(9,897 posts)There is no "babe in the woods" her...she either engineered this as part of a pending divorce case or he allowed it to happen and is allowing his wife to be humiliated as a result.
Either way, by November, this is an ex-couple and THAT would be a massive issue for a presidential candidate to be going through a nasty, nasty divorce on the campaign trail.
They are making this much worse by the hour...
Person 2713
(3,263 posts)be handled and everything said and done for her she would be a weak First Lady
All of that.
If Michelle Obama had stolen someone else's speech, no one in the media would be asking who is responsible--they'd be telling us that the FLOTUS is a thief.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)And they will be fired.
Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)No chance that she'll be fired.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)The person who actually wrote it will be fired.
Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)but the Trumps don't do that.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)As you correctly point out, the Trumps lie all the time and never admit to doing so.
trotsky
(49,533 posts)Because Benghazi, or emails, or something.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)I think he was the guy who wrote the speech.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)I can't see a speechwriter doing that unless it's an intentional act of sabotage. Whoever did it googled Michelle Obama's speech, and cut and pasted. Any speechwriter would know they would end up getting caught. Maybe she didn't realize it.
Sanity Claws
(21,866 posts)The logo was a disaster. Anyone with eyes in his head could have seen the problems with it. Same with the speech.
Jason Miller is a communications guy hired in late June 2016. He is a long time Republican operative and supported Ted Cruz. Could it be him?
I have no idea but it will be interesting to watch the circular firing squad.
RobinA
(9,916 posts)as well. There's no WAY anybody thought it would go undetected. Either somebody pissed somebody off and this was payback or someone wanted to damage the campaign. Lord knows, there can't be too many people in that position around.
cyberswede
(26,117 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)Somebody ripped it off either her or a staffer. She says she wrote it so lets see if she says it was changed.
Statistical
(19,264 posts)I am sure someone encouraged her to lie but she chose to do so. It is a concept even kids understand (peer pressure vs doing the right thing).
Laurian
(2,593 posts)wrote it, but she claimed participation to show involvement in her husband's quest. It all backfired....bigly!
Nitram
(22,985 posts)She's supporting the problem to the best of her ability.
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)Stinky The Clown
(67,849 posts)"Stop making excuses for grown ass adults. nt"
Was that addressed to me, personally?
eom
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)She had weeks to prepare. She had speechwriters. Blaming them for what ultimately stops with her and him is wrong, and it unnecessarily convolutes the issue.
Her speech. She said it. She is responsible for what comes out of her mouth
Stinky The Clown
(67,849 posts)Your post was unclear to me. That is no longer the case.
Yupster
(14,308 posts)like much of the rest of the campaign being done on the fly.
A bunch of ideas and piece of speeches were gathered together.
She probably picked out some she liked for the speechwriter to put into some organized form.
He thought that piece was something she wrote rather than something she liked.
It was thrown together so fast, no one really copy-edited it, much less Melania who had more important things to do.
Like much of the Trump campaign I think it was just a throw together mess.
maxsolomon
(33,475 posts)the Campaign won't reveal who did wrote it, but they'll be sacked.
or maybe they will, and Trump will sue the writer.
I don't think Melania is the sophisticate you all believe she is.
ecstatic
(32,814 posts)DetlefK
(16,423 posts)MichiganVote
(21,086 posts)hamsterjill
(15,224 posts)They are used to doing whatever the hell they want to whoever the hell they want, and getting away with it because of their wealth. They are not used to scrutiny or being held accountable.
underahedgerow
(1,232 posts)the curtain, you can be sure this putz is micro-managing every single thing about this whole, never ending debacle.
I'll wager he wrote the 'speech'.
SticksnStones
(2,108 posts)Who else would have an ego big enough to think they'd get away with it?
A professional speech writer wouldn't dare...or if he did dare and it was an act of sabotage Trump would be all over that. He relishes the role of victim. The tweets would be flying already.
A staffer wouldnt have the balls to try and get away with something like that.
His kids? They wouldnt sabotage Melania knowing it would tarnish the family name she shares with them.
This was Trump. And he can't fire himself.
MichiganVote
(21,086 posts)sarae
(3,284 posts)who knows? The whole thing is so freaking bizarre. How on earth did they (whoever "they" is) not think people would make the connection?
7wo7rees
(5,128 posts)After last nite, how much better can this get?
The Duggar family?
The Bundy bunch?
Kirk Cameron?
hunter
(38,354 posts)All the rich kids do it, and they truly believe it's their own work because they bought it.
Like you buy a car. (Or your daddy buys you a car...)
It's your car, right?
Right?
Trajan
(19,089 posts)That megalomaniac isn't going to let someone screw up his potus dreams - he's going to hire 'the best' speechwriter, and they are going to give the greatest speech ever heard in the entire multiverse ...
Pin it on the Orange man
geomon666
(7,512 posts)Whether they were written by someone else or not is irrelevant. It's your job as a speaker to know what the hell it is you're saying.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Melania Trump was just paying homage to her birth and upbringing in a Communist country: From each (Michelle Obama) according to her ability (to write her own speech) to each (Melania Trump) according to her need (to read words off a teleprompter). Besides, as Paul Manafort is telling us this morning, it's all Hillary's fault, even though Melania didn't do anything wrong!