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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTim Kaine Wouldn’t Do Much To Help Clinton Win The Election
So saith Nate Silver.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/tim-kaine-probably-wouldnt-win-clinton-the-election/?ex_cid=538twitter
RandySF
(59,874 posts)One delivered Texas for JFK and the other padded Obama's victory margin. Running mates are safety plays. That's why Obama chose Biden.
TexasProgresive
(12,165 posts)Not that he helped deliver a key state. I had conversations with Bush supporters that admitted he didn't have what it takes to be president by Cheney etal would keep everything straight. You can't win with these people.
leftstreet
(36,119 posts)How hard can it be to beat Trump?
Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)@Reuters: RT @ReutersPolitics: BREAKING: Trump pulls nearly even with Clinton for first time since May - Reuters/Ipsos poll
m.twitter.com/Reuters
The media are still giving that fascist blowhard all the free air time he could ever want and the FEC hasn't stepped in and complained about it, much less ordered a cease and desist.
Clinton, on the other hand, is going to have to beg for any mention that doesn't tie her to some made up Republican scandal.
So yes, he's going to be very hard to beat in a system as corrupt as ours has become no matter how nuts he gets.
leftstreet
(36,119 posts)The MSM's trying to make it look like an actual competition - that's how they make their money
The did the same thing with McCain and he had zero chance against Obama
Warpy
(111,476 posts)but I'll have no problem voting for Clinton. We can all survive another Clinton.
However, McTrainwreck never had the star quality the sociopathic Trump possesses. The media are pushing him out there and the star struck and stupid are eating it all up. It would be no competition if both parties played by the same rules and had the same access to media. Unfortunately, that is not the case.
leftstreet
(36,119 posts)(In Prez elections especially)
I think you'll find HRC's brand recognition will be all she needs
SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)to step in and complain or issue any kind of cease and desist order.
Warpy
(111,476 posts)who won't even allow vacant seats to be filled by a Democratic president.
leftstreet
(36,119 posts)SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)of Congress in 1934 when the Equal Time law was passed, and there wasn't a Republican President for certain.
Plus, the law is enforced by the FCC, not the FEC, and it doesn't apply to cable channels.
The FEC can't tell stations what they can or can't air, and frankly, I wouldn't want them to have that power.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,128 posts)Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)JI7
(89,289 posts)With trump as the gop nominee she may feel there is less need to consider electoral strategy when it comes to VP.
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)as was discussed on tv, Kaine is fluent in Spanish
they talked about how effective he can be in, uh....FLORIDA.
that may or may not be true, but Silver didn't even take that into consideration
so he should stick to crunching the numbers
this is a case of gigo, writ large
that said, I am NO Kaine fan, by any stretch
EDIT: note on his page which schwing state has the most percentage effect on the EC....... too bad he doesn't even consider Kaine's influence there.
now, on to some place that has any plausible consideration for what Kaine can do for Florida. that's all I care about; somebody who will help in a key state, and all signs point to him, because of senate stuff, mainly, I guess
Ford_Prefect
(7,941 posts)Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)electoral votes
but so much is up for grabs, even Connecticut, according to somebody I heard
Reagan dems resurfacing, violence everywhere (fear+ignorance may be the overriding issue, and could change everything), for example, are impossible to factor in at this early point
who knows what can happen?
personally I'm hoping for trump to be involuntarily committed to St. Elizabeth's, maybe alongside the guy who shot Reagan.
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)the swing states.
and there is much uncertainty, with his populist appeal to the Idiocracy voter, what will happen in many heretofore safe blue states, chief of which could be Connecticut and New Jersey.
I really would like to relax and enjoy trump's long, slow, torturous unraveling, with a safe election in the pocket, but the violence/terror factor is completely unpredictable, and pugs ALWAYS win that one, with their simplistic, xenophobic appeals to fear and ignorance