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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIf we had all open primaries, how would we avoid the problem of people voting Democratic
just to support a particular candidate, and having no loyalty -- to the point of disrupting party processes -- when their preferred candidate doesn't win?
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Would you shut them out of primaries?
pnwmom
(109,028 posts)request a ballot.
Even in NY, which had the strictest rules, people who previously hadn't voted only had to register a month before the election. (People previously registered in another party had to join months earlier.)
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flamin lib
(14,559 posts)Should they want to change parties they file a change with the SOS just like changing address.
If you are registered to vote you must declare a party. It is up to the state how to handle Independent or non-declared voters.
flamin lib
(14,559 posts)I can attest to the number of Republicans voting in the Dem primary in an attempt to influence the outcome. The good news is that they were evenly divided as either racist or misogynist so their votes more or less canceled each other out. But, yes, it does happen.
Lars39
(26,120 posts)Spend money even in states that are red.
SunSeeker
(51,838 posts)msongs
(67,509 posts)SunSeeker
(51,838 posts)kaiden
(1,314 posts)tonyt53
(5,737 posts)konnie
(44 posts)In Indiana you walk into a polling place and state your choice. dem or repub. the officer at the table
checks your name and address on the voting list. then you are handed a ballot for one party primary or
the other.
recently they added - because you know - fraud! - showing your photo id.
two years ago I was a pol worker. I had to vote absentee because the pols are open from
6 - 6 here. that was a piece of cake.
I found out that at the court house sends out the absentee ballots to the precinct polling place.
and about 5:55 the ballots are scanned into the machines and counted.
what is sad is the low number of voters for the mid-term. there were about 100,000 registered voters
in the precinct and only about 100 voters showed up. long depressing day.
we must do better. mail in or internet voting should be that better way.
my suggestion is to take over the banking system for voting.
#1 they owe the government for bailing out
their asses. and are safer than other systems due to the treasury dept.
#2 there is a bank branch and an atm machine everywhere. 99% of voters know where they are
and how they work.
#3 every two years the banks add an option to select to vote. you enter your zipcode and up it pops.
#4 you vote, and can send the print out to your email, or print it out there. but there is a paper trail.
#5 you enter your SS#, and the computer can stop duplicate voting or fraud.
#6 the system can be linked to voting registration files or those can be done away with forever.
my preference since there should be no impediment to vote.
#7 the ballot option could be available 24/7 for a week or a month. and then counted all at the
same time and reported.
#8 if you have access to your bank via the internet, you could vote on your phone or pc or whatever
device you have. again - the system would detect any fraud - just like it does your bank account.
there are many changes that should be made to update our right to vote in 2016! it should be a national holiday. it should be an automatic birthright.
Shandris
(3,447 posts)Or any other form of 'vetting' that is built on the idea of corralling the voters into pre-approved, designated choice paths. Put them all on a ballot and let them fight it out all the way until Election Day. Then NO ONE (on either/any 'side') is voting out of 'disloyalty' and parties form and reform every few years around the winner/candidates.
Of course, that's not quite so easy to manipulate via mass media (outside of a direct Cult of Personality manner, and if that were a serious concern you could easily provide...'guidelines' to the Medes under threat of loss of license) and the 'party apparatus' (not to mention all the paid jobs provided by the party apparatus) so it's highly unlikely to ever happen (or even be floated as a serious idea).
pnwmom
(109,028 posts)unless we want the decision thrown into Congress?
Shandris
(3,447 posts)But I'm not looking strictly inside the current Constitution for a solution; I pretty much stipulate that you can't solve problems from the same level of mind that caused them and, as such, new solutions (and with them, new implementations) are in order.
pnwmom
(109,028 posts)is a very long, difficult process, as we saw when we tried to add an Equal Rights Amendment decades ago. Even with a time-extension, we weren't able to pass it.
Omaha Steve
(99,903 posts)In the primary everybody running is on the ballot and no designation for their party. The top two proceed to the general election.
It pays $12,000 per year and no benefits. So the average Joe isn't going to run.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)I think your State should use the primary system.
It's always a mistake to fret about people voting in a country with a very serious apathy problem where the real issue is motivating people to vote at all. For every voter you worry about, you are leaving a hundred eligible non participants on the table, droves of voters making moot any occasional tactical voter trying to play gain of sand to the system's oyster.