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Clinton 97% - Johnson 55% - Trump 15% (Original Post) Bucky Jul 2016 OP
Clinton 97% - Stein 91% - Johnson 59% - Trump 9% Doodley Jul 2016 #1
Results grubbs Jul 2016 #2
Wow lancer78 Jul 2016 #3
Mine were close to yours OhioBlue Jul 2016 #25
Mine almost exactly the same as yours auntpurl Jul 2016 #41
Stein 98%, Clinton 97%, Johnson 72%, Drumpf 8% Warpy Jul 2016 #4
Well, this is Trump's campaign song jmowreader Jul 2016 #24
Brilliant!!! lanlady Jul 2016 #40
Here are my results: StevieM Jul 2016 #5
That's probly the first time any one ever said... Bucky Jul 2016 #20
Not to bad... angrychair Jul 2016 #6
These kinds of self-analysis come-ons are toxic frazzled Jul 2016 #7
BTW, what's your hotness IQ? Loki Liesmith Jul 2016 #15
Useless without a picture... panader0 Jul 2016 #21
Supernova! FSogol Jul 2016 #43
This one was pretty good though. What I absolutely hate are the phone surveys that PatrickforO Jul 2016 #30
To the people insured, of which I am now one treestar Jul 2016 #56
agreed, this is silly and not nuanced at all Grey Lemercier Jul 2016 #44
Most questions had at least half a dozen choices if you chose "other". bluedigger Jul 2016 #57
it is the questions themselves, the lack of drilling down Grey Lemercier Jul 2016 #58
Well, if all those choices aren't good enough for you... bluedigger Jul 2016 #60
I will stick to the actually records, qualifications, issues and potential outcomes Grey Lemercier Jul 2016 #61
Definitely an essay writer. bluedigger Jul 2016 #62
Really, after all "Do you love the African American?" MADem Jul 2016 #63
My impression too frazzled Jul 2016 #64
My deepest sympathies (not for living in Lexington, it's a lovely MADem Jul 2016 #66
Clinton 99% louis c Jul 2016 #8
Hillary 99%-Stein 96%-Johnson 46%-trump 7% hrmjustin Jul 2016 #9
Stein 100% and Clinton 98% ananda Jul 2016 #10
Clinton 99%, Stein 97%, Johnson 61%, Trump 10%. n/t pampango Jul 2016 #11
Clinton-97% Stein-96% Johnson-55% Trump-15% n/t Different Drummer Jul 2016 #12
Hillary 92%..... Nye Bevan Jul 2016 #13
How did you pull that off? bluedigger Jul 2016 #59
Stein 96% Clinton 95% Johnson 69% LuvNewcastle Jul 2016 #14
You both have the best words. You both want to be tough and smart Bucky Jul 2016 #22
Lol! LuvNewcastle Jul 2016 #47
95% Hillary, 82% Stein, 59% Johnson, 19% Castle ???, 13% Trump clutterbox1830 Jul 2016 #16
Clinton 98% - Stein 98% - Johnson 55% - Trump 13% krawhitham Jul 2016 #17
My results... alittlelark Jul 2016 #18
Weird how Clinton and Stein are so similar oberliner Jul 2016 #19
Stein probly means it more, but Clinton can actually get it done Bucky Jul 2016 #23
they are not even close. they differ dramatically on taxes and defence Grey Lemercier Jul 2016 #45
They are almost identical oberliner Jul 2016 #49
this online "identifier" is simplistic and detached from all nuances Grey Lemercier Jul 2016 #50
Of course oberliner Jul 2016 #51
Yes, I agree there are many that Clinton and Stein stand for that Trump and Republicans are against. Grey Lemercier Jul 2016 #52
I got 100% Hillary 97% Stein MattP Jul 2016 #26
Clinton 98% - Stein 97% - Johnson 55% - Trump - 4% liberalmuse Jul 2016 #27
Stein 100% Hillary 99% Johnson 60% Trump 12% TDale313 Jul 2016 #28
Interesting. You must be a REAL left winger. PatrickforO Jul 2016 #29
27% for Trump??!?!?!!!11!!?! Bucky Jul 2016 #31
Well, Trump is a liar. He's coming out against 'free' trade, and implying he's PatrickforO Jul 2016 #32
I think Trump may have maxed out his support already. Bucky Jul 2016 #34
And, a funny thing as a last thought before bed: PatrickforO Jul 2016 #33
have a good night, Patrick Bucky Jul 2016 #35
My results sakabatou Jul 2016 #36
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2016 #37
99% Clinton BainsBane Jul 2016 #38
maybe Bucky Jul 2016 #39
Here we go. MrScorpio Jul 2016 #42
Clinton 98% / Stein 95% / Johnson 56% / Trump 9% VOX Jul 2016 #46
Stein 96% Clinton 95% Johnson 69% Trump 33% Castle 12% Zing Zing Zingbah Jul 2016 #48
I think the scoring for Trump is flawed! GaYellowDawg Jul 2016 #53
Oh WOW the numbers change if you weight the categories' importance! GaYellowDawg Jul 2016 #54
Stein 98%, Clinton 96%, Johnson 69%, Trump 15%. bluedigger Jul 2016 #55
Jill stein 99% Hillary Clinton 97% Drumpf 6% davekriss Jul 2016 #65

grubbs

(356 posts)
2. Results
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 05:11 PM
Jul 2016

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Ok pic won't show but Hillary 98. Stien 96 Johnson 55 and trump 10.

Huh. I guess Jill is my second choice.

Having an identity crisis here. But at least trump is only 10 percent.

I think they just cloned the Hillary positions with Stiens and took off a couple points if you were an anti vax kook.

Oh god. Do I need a tinfoil hat ?

Warpy

(111,481 posts)
4. Stein 98%, Clinton 97%, Johnson 72%, Drumpf 8%
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 05:12 PM
Jul 2016

It's about what I expected, a wash between Clinton and Stein with Johnson a close third because of his stances of social and foreign policy issues.

Nobody really knows what Drumpf stands for except Drumpf.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
5. Here are my results:
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 05:25 PM
Jul 2016

99%
Hillary Clinton Democratic
on social, healthcare, criminal, immigration, environmental, economic, domestic policy, science, education, electoral, and foreign policy issues.

96%
Jill Stein Green
on social, environmental, healthcare, immigration, criminal, economic, foreign policy, domestic policy, electoral, and science issues.

51%
Gary Johnson Libertarian
on social and foreign policy issues.

5%
Donald Trump Republican
no major issues.

4%
Darrell Castle Constitution
no major issues.

Bucky

(54,106 posts)
20. That's probly the first time any one ever said...
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 12:20 AM
Jul 2016

Donald Trump and "no major issues" in the same sentence

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
7. These kinds of self-analysis come-ons are toxic
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 05:38 PM
Jul 2016

Please don't take them. Try thinking for yourself instead. Political choices should be made on more than just a checklist containing a limited roster of stated policy positions (which are too nuanced to be measured in this way as barometers anyway). One must also consider the issues not on the list; the experience, expertise, capabilities, and character of the candidate; the political chops the candidate has in getting elected and getting any stated policies enacted.

These so-called tests are the equivalent of taking your "hotness IQ" in a teen magazine, or applying to art school on the back of a matchbook cover.

PatrickforO

(14,608 posts)
30. This one was pretty good though. What I absolutely hate are the phone surveys that
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 02:35 AM
Jul 2016

define the questions for you and don't give you the actual choice you'd make. Like for instance, 'do you support Obamacare?'

I can't answer that yes or no because I'll be mistaken. I think Obamacare is a huge Heritage Foundation corporate welfare program for insurance companies but it is better than what we had before which was nothing. However, I want single payer, and failing that a single payer option within Obamacare.

See what I mean?

At least these questions allowed me to put in my own stances. Like for instance, end drone attacks, immediately disband the NSA and repeal the 'Patriot' Act, which is the worst piece of anti-Bill of Rights junk ever foisted off on Americans. No one ever asked me how many, if any, of my rights I'm willing to give up in order to be 'safe.' And that answer is not many. I can deal with TSA but the giant NSA security/data repository in Utah? NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.

NO.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
56. To the people insured, of which I am now one
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 12:00 PM
Jul 2016

it is not a huge corporate welfare program. The government is paying part of my premium - that means the rest of America that is doing better is paying for me to be covered. Don't care if it causes insurance companies to have more customers and employ more people. It's a lot better than nothing, a LOT.

bluedigger

(17,091 posts)
57. Most questions had at least half a dozen choices if you chose "other".
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 12:02 PM
Jul 2016

How much nuance do you want in an online survey?

 

Grey Lemercier

(1,429 posts)
58. it is the questions themselves, the lack of drilling down
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 12:05 PM
Jul 2016

I immediately dismiss any questionaire that shows people to be in 98 or 99% agreement of support for both Stein and Sec. Clinton. That is just factually untrue.

bluedigger

(17,091 posts)
60. Well, if all those choices aren't good enough for you...
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 12:07 PM
Jul 2016

Not to mention you could answer even more questions on all their topics...

I guess you should just stick to the essay tests.

 

Grey Lemercier

(1,429 posts)
61. I will stick to the actually records, qualifications, issues and potential outcomes
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 12:35 PM
Jul 2016

of a Clinton presidency vis-a-vis a Stein presidency. The outcome for me is an easy and stark choice. Sec. Clinton, by almsot every measure is the vastly superior candidate, and there are major systemic differences between the 2 at a multiplicity of points.

Maybe I am on the wrong board. I see so much push back here against Democrats whom I happen to support. Tim Kaine, DWS, Corey Booker, Maria Cantwell, Diane Feinstein, Bill Nelson, Bill Clinton, and for ages Hillary herself (searching to before I joined).

I am a young, entrepreneurial woman who is pro capitalism, pro free trade, pro business, as long as these are done in an environmentally sustainable and worker-fair way. I run my own firm this way. Much like Sec. Clinton I am pragmatic when it comes to defense , taxes, fracking, etc. I also am a lesbian of colour and very progressive on most social issues. I am very comfortable where the Democratic Party is on an ideological front atm. I am NOT comfortable with the Green Party overall. I think they are a threat inasmuch as they work indirectly to help elect Trump, who is the carnival barker of racist, misogynistic, fascist presentations, as well as those despicable qualities' champion for millions of bog standard troglodytic followers of his.

bluedigger

(17,091 posts)
62. Definitely an essay writer.
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 01:35 PM
Jul 2016

I don't like Stein either, but that doesn't mean the Green Party and Dems aren't closely aligned in many policy areas, as the quiz indicates. Our job is to bring them over to our side at the polls, not alienate them.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
63. Really, after all "Do you love the African American?"
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 02:33 PM
Jul 2016

Trump does!!! He said so--ONCE.


So if we "Love the African American" does that mean we're siding with The Con-ald?



These clickbait polls are amusing, but that's pretty much all they are. Jill Stein is a MORON--I've seen her up close, for years, and she's a crank and a disruptor....a troll in real life.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
66. My deepest sympathies (not for living in Lexington, it's a lovely
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 03:01 PM
Jul 2016

place, but for having to deal with her-LOL! I can't imagine the prospect of running into that insufferable scold at the coffee shop or super mart!!).

Bucky

(54,106 posts)
22. You both have the best words. You both want to be tough and smart
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 12:22 AM
Jul 2016

That's gotta add up to 13% right there

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
19. Weird how Clinton and Stein are so similar
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 10:56 PM
Jul 2016

Yet, Jill is fighting to ensure Hillary does not win.

Bucky

(54,106 posts)
23. Stein probly means it more, but Clinton can actually get it done
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 12:25 AM
Jul 2016

that's the actual difference I care about

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
49. They are almost identical
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 09:07 AM
Jul 2016

Look at the results posted on this thread.

The OP got 97 percent for both Stein and Clinton.

Other results:

Clinton 97% - Stein 91%
Hillary 98. Stien 96
96-Clinton
96-Stein
Hillary 97, Stein 95
Hillary 97, Stein 94
Stein 98%, Clinton 97%
99%
Hillary Clinton
96%
Jill Stein Green
99% with Hillary Clinton
97% Jill Stein
Hillary 99%-Stein 96%
Stein 100% and Clinton 98%
Clinton 99%, Stein 97%
Clinton-97% Stein-96%

And on and on.

 

Grey Lemercier

(1,429 posts)
50. this online "identifier" is simplistic and detached from all nuances
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 09:25 AM
Jul 2016

It gives vague and overly broad choices. A Stein presidency would look nothing like a Clinton one and would be a disaster from so many angles.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
51. Of course
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 09:56 AM
Jul 2016

But I think we often forget about the many issues that we take for granted that both Hillary Clinton and Jill Stein are on the same side of and the Republicans are on the opposite side of yielding results where you can match Clinton and Stein in the 90s while the Republicans are in the 20s.

Such as:

Abortion is a woman's unrestricted right
Legally require hiring women & minorities
Comfortable with same-sex marriage
EPA regulations are too restrictive (Both Disagree)
Make voter registration easier
Absolute right to gun ownership (Both Disagree)
Expand ObamaCare
Vouchers for school choice (Both Disagree)
Prioritize green energy
Stimulus better than market-led recovery
Higher taxes on the wealthy
Pathway to citizenship for illegal aliens
Privatize Social Security (Both Disagree)

Obviously these sorts of surveys are simplistic and don't reflect nuances, but even on these very basic concepts, right-wingers are on the opposite side of both Clinton and Stein.

 

Grey Lemercier

(1,429 posts)
52. Yes, I agree there are many that Clinton and Stein stand for that Trump and Republicans are against.
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 10:06 AM
Jul 2016

No quarrel there whatsoever. It is other major issues like the economy and defence where Stein and Hillary really start to vary.

PatrickforO

(14,608 posts)
29. Interesting. You must be a REAL left winger.
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 02:28 AM
Jul 2016

I only got a 94% for Clinton, a 94% for Stein, a 57% for Johnson and a 27% for Trump.

Of course I'm voting for Clinton. With Trump the only other major candidate, there is only one decision to make and that is Clinton. I like Stein but now that Sanders and we Sanders supporters have risen up and become so vocal, I'm thinking that we gave Clinton permission to move a little to the left, which I believe is her natural inclination.

But as Maher says, the Clinton's 'get there' eventually, but they aren't ever going to be the first ones there. But that doesn't matter. Again as Maher said, we are at the train station and we have two choices. One is the train that is going to our destination, but it is a bit slower than we'd like. The other is a train to...hell.

I'm getting on that Clinton train.

Bucky

(54,106 posts)
31. 27% for Trump??!?!?!!!11!!?!
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 02:36 AM
Jul 2016

Buddy, when those confiscations finally start up next week, your gun is first.

PatrickforO

(14,608 posts)
32. Well, Trump is a liar. He's coming out against 'free' trade, and implying he's
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 02:42 AM
Jul 2016

pro union, and saying he wants incentives for companies to keep jobs here.

While Trump is lying through his teeth on these issues because he truly doesn't give a shit about American workers, whatsoever, I do. I am very strongly pro union and I'm not 'anti' trade but I believe GATS, NAFTA and CAFTA should be renegotiated with an eye toward this nation being able to keep good jobs. And I strongly believe TPP needs to be rewritten WITHOUT the ISDS provisions, because I think these provisions seriously undermine local, state and federal democracy.

So Trump's flapping his jaws on these things, but I really do believe them.

Bucky

(54,106 posts)
34. I think Trump may have maxed out his support already.
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 02:47 AM
Jul 2016

All he can do from here on out is watch his 44% shrink every time he opens his fool mouth and betrays his lack of character. The trick this year will be how much he can keep from floating over to Gary Johnson (and how much Clinton can hang onto too--I've seen polls suggesting Johnson hurts Clinton as much as he hurts Trump). I can see some of our Great Lake bluish states falling to Trump in a 40-40-16-4 split. That's our real worry.

PatrickforO

(14,608 posts)
33. And, a funny thing as a last thought before bed:
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 02:44 AM
Jul 2016

I don't own a gun. Never have.

I do have a pocketknife that has a fish on it and a scaling blade I inherited from my Dad when he died 34 years ago...

Response to Bucky (Original post)

BainsBane

(53,137 posts)
38. 99% Clinton
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 04:19 AM
Jul 2016

98% Stein, 60% Gary Johnson (WTF?), and 7% Trump. But it said no answers matched Trump, so why 7%?

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
42. Here we go.
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 07:35 AM
Jul 2016

Hillary Clinton Democratic 99%

Jill Stein Green 96%

Gary Johnson Libertarian 56%

Donald Trump Republican 5%

Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
48. Stein 96% Clinton 95% Johnson 69% Trump 33% Castle 12%
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 08:30 AM
Jul 2016

Scoring of the test seems a little weird. It said I side 33% with Trump but on no major issues.

GaYellowDawg

(4,452 posts)
53. I think the scoring for Trump is flawed!
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 11:06 AM
Jul 2016

97% Hillary
92% Jill Stein
56% Gary Johnson
30% Trump

Here's how I got to 30%. A lot of these were scored as partial agreements with Trump when there really wasn't any agreement at all!!

Should corporations and unions (Super PACs) be allowed to donate to political candidates?
No, corporations are not people and should not be allowed to finance political campaigns

Should the government raise the retirement age for Social Security?
No, eliminate the income cap on taxable earnings instead

Should the government be allowed to seize private property, with reasonable compensation, for public or civic use?
Yes, as long as landowners are fairly compensated and the projects will benefit the community

Should Apple unlock the iPhones of suspected terrorists for the FBI?
Yes, but only in situations where the owner is a proven threat to national security

Should the government raise the federal minimum wage?
Yes, and make it a living wage

Do you believe labor unions help or hurt the economy?
Help

Should employers be required to pay men and women the same salary for the same job?
Yes

Should the government require businesses to pay salaried employees, making up to $46k/year, time-and-a-half for overtime hours?
Yes

Should the U.S. remain in the United Nations?
Yes, and use the U.N. peacekeeping forces to protect our interests

Should the government decrease military spending?
No, but limit profits made from military contracts

Should the U.S. continue NSA surveillance of its allies?
Yes

Do you support President Obama’s move to lift the trade and travel embargo on Cuba?
Yes

Should the U.S. prevent Russia from conducting airstrikes in Syria?
No, we should let the Russians take out ISIS

Should the U.S. overthrow President Assad of Syria?
No

Should the government conduct military strikes against North Korea in order to destroy their long-range missile and nuclear weapons capabilities?
No, we must use every diplomatic option first

Do you support the death penalty?
Yes, but only for horrific crimes with undeniable evidence

Should states be allowed to display the Confederate flag on government property?
No, it is a symbol of racism

Should the government continue to fund Planned Parenthood?
Yes, their services reach far beyond abortions and can save many lives through cancer screening, prenatal services, and adoption referrals

Do you support the legalization of Marijuana?
Yes, and legalize, tax, and regulate marijuana instead of criminalizing it

Should the federal government increase funding of health care for low income individuals (Medicaid)?
Yes, but I prefer switching to a single payer healthcare system

Should immigrants be required to learn English?
Yes, but the government should provide free language learning courses

Should prisons ban the use of solitary confinement for juveniles?
No, but it is currently being overused

GaYellowDawg

(4,452 posts)
54. Oh WOW the numbers change if you weight the categories' importance!
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 11:25 AM
Jul 2016

Mine went to:

Hillary 93%
Stein 92%
61% Johnson
20% Trump (and do I ever feel better about the 10% decrease!)

bluedigger

(17,091 posts)
55. Stein 98%, Clinton 96%, Johnson 69%, Trump 15%.
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 11:57 AM
Jul 2016

Last edited Sat Jul 30, 2016, 02:25 PM - Edit history (2)

Don't worry, I'm not tossing my vote for a 2% difference.

I assume Trump and I agree on 15% due to our shared native language.

I just noticed I'm only at 65% with DemocraticUnderground!

What the Hell's wrong with you people?

davekriss

(4,644 posts)
65. Jill stein 99% Hillary Clinton 97% Drumpf 6%
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 02:46 PM
Jul 2016

Johnson 59%, but as an anarchist-syndicalist, that doesn't surprise me.

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