This story fascinates me because my neighbor's stereo often interferes with my ability to think rationally. No telling how I would react if an adult was pimping my 17-year-old.

be "murder"?

nt

Who cares about a dead fucking pimp?

and about not taking the law into our own hands.

It's not always convenient, but if you ever get mistaken for a pimp, or if you're out walking in a hoodie or something, you might appreciate it.

Pimps are up there at the top of the low-life list along with slave traders, snuff film makers, and Dick Cheney. They're good for alligator food and that's about it. The only injustice in this case would be to make these people do time in prison for whacking that piece of shit.

and tell him that your underage daughter is being used as a sex slave. Have him shrug his shoulder and tell you to piss off. What alternative do you have? If the state doesn't give a crap about you, or the sex crimes that are being perpetrated against your child, what do you do? "Sorry sweetie. we tried. Good luck with that AIDS that you're probably going to end up with in 6 months."
The parents tried to do the right thing. They were rebuffed.
If the state and the cops couldn't be bothered to investigate sex crimes against a minor, what indications did anyone have that they would care about the murder of a gang member/pimp?
The only thing I think the parents did wrong was let it be known that they did it.

edited to add, from the LA Times:

The couple tried to persuade the teenager to break ties with 22-year-old Calvin Sneed. They sought help from law enforcement — to no avail — and later added the girl to several missing and exploited children registries, according to their lawyers. And that, their lawyers said, was where they left it.

he would have found out that limping ain't easy

They don't love dem prose

late one afternoon with my boss and co-workers. It was a weekday, not many tourists, and this pimp was telling this young girl she needed to work harder or it was going to be a long night for her. They were standing right on the sidewalk across from Jackson Square. My boss, a very kind hearted gentleman told us to walk ahead and turned to the the pimp and said "how much?" He quoted a figure, boss reached in his wallet and pulled out cash. They joined us, we walked back to the lot where we had parked and he gave the his business card (he is an attorney) and offered her a ride to the police station or a woman's shelter. He told us to leave as the pimp had followed but he stayed with the girl. Whatever happened that day we do not know because he never mentioned it again. I like to think that he saved her life that night.....

I wish more were interested in the lives of these young victim.

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If it happened in Dallas the thread would be filled with voices screaming about Stand Your Ground laws, easy access to guns, and vigilante justice.

In the case of the father punching the rapist of his 4 year old daughter to death I understand some folks wanted to have the father's side of the story verified but then so many -- too many -- piled-on to paint the father as a crazed vigilante killer.

Everything I've seen about that story has people saying either "Not guilty" or "the father deserves a metal, not prosecution" or "the rapist's skull caved itself in. And if I were a juror, that's what I would say."

but there are several instances where the incident, as described in the news, was assumed true for argument's sake yet the father was upbraided for taking the law into his own hands.

has the right and the duty to protect his daughter. I would become a savage fucking bastard if I saw someone hurting my daughter. The law wasn't there to protect her. It failed her.
Besides... Cops aren't the end-all-be-all of justice. That pedophile RAPIST would have spent maybe 10 years in a cell (if we're lucky) then gotten out and probably done it again. Maybe killed the kid next time.
But thanks to dad, he actually got justice. He will NEVER hurt another kid again.
Dad is not guilty as far as I am concerned. Nothing about what he did was a crime.

Still, my original point -- in agreement to the poster I responded to -- was that some posts I saw described the father's actions as vigilante in nature or "taking the law into his own hands." That was rather troubling for me.

i tend to think the parents were picked up because it was easy for the cops.

pimps wouldn't be in business if there wasn't a market...

I won't excuse Johns but the presence of Johns doesn't rationalize the presence of pimps. People have an obligation to not become pimps.

just a quick 'where-does-it-end' point in the ongoing debate over vigilantism...

an immediate, reasonable threat of death or serious injury. I'm curious if the parents attempted contacting the police of social services. If they did then the government has some serious explaining to do.

I won't badger the point about you earlier post. I replied based on what I thought it meant. I accept your explanation. Sorry for any confusion.

I guess it shouldn't, but it continues to do so.

Lets just say it doesn't amaze me at all.

Don

I'd expect liberals to be able to understand why the application of vigilante justice to people we don't like/agree with is still a very bad thing, but the knee-jerk reactions are hard to overcome.

Whoops, flashback.

Gotta wonder about people who get caught shooting somebody nobody will miss in a neighborhood where the cops are spread thin.

Rule #1: Leave your cell phone at home. Phone companies can use cell phone data records to trangulate cell phone position. Might be a good idea to have a friend sit at your house with a cell phone (and his) and make a few calls or texts out to other buddies/family throughout the night as an alabi.

Everybody talks in the end, you know...