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morningfog

(18,115 posts)
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 08:28 AM Jun 2012

How Drones Help Al Qaeda

By IBRAHIM MOTHANA

“DEAR OBAMA, when a U.S. drone missile kills a child in Yemen, the father will go to war with you, guaranteed. Nothing to do with Al Qaeda,” a Yemeni lawyer warned on Twitter last month. President Obama should keep this message in mind before ordering more drone strikes like Wednesday’s, which local officials say killed 27 people, or the May 15 strike that killed at least eight Yemeni civilians.

Drone strikes are causing more and more Yemenis to hate America and join radical militants; they are not driven by ideology but rather by a sense of revenge and despair. Robert Grenier, the former head of the C.I.A.’s counterterrorism center, has warned that the American drone program in Yemen risks turning the country into a safe haven for Al Qaeda like the tribal areas of Pakistan — “the Arabian equivalent of Waziristan.”

Anti-Americanism is far less prevalent in Yemen than in Pakistan. But rather than winning the hearts and minds of Yemeni civilians, America is alienating them by killing their relatives and friends.
Indeed, the drone program is leading to the Talibanization of vast tribal areas and the radicalization of people who could otherwise be America’s allies in the fight against terrorism in Yemen.

The first known drone strike in Yemen to be authorized by Mr. Obama, in late 2009, left 14 women and 21 children dead in the southern town of al-Majala, according to a parliamentary report. Only one of the dozens killed was identified as having strong Qaeda connections.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/14/opinion/how-drones-help-al-qaeda.html

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Before the drone defenders rush in with the same tired arguments, this is not about the weapon (drones), nor is it about the unfettered acts of war being operated by a unitary executive through the CIA. The pain and backlash felt in places like Yemen and Pakistan would be the same regardless of the method of delivering the bombs. Also, this article is not about the legality (constitutionally or internationally) of striking in sovereign countries. This is about how counter-productive the strategy is. This is about how such bombings radicalize populations and decrease our security.

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How Drones Help Al Qaeda (Original Post) morningfog Jun 2012 OP
A relevant article: Let’s Admit It: The US Is at War in Yemen, Too morningfog Jun 2012 #1
Drone strikes are not helping us win any hearts and minds of the people KoKo Jun 2012 #2
 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
1. A relevant article: Let’s Admit It: The US Is at War in Yemen, Too
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 08:41 AM
Jun 2012

After years of sending drones and commandos into Pakistan, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta last week finally admitted the obvious: The US is “fighting a war” there. But American robots and special forces aren’t just targeting militants in Pakistan. They’re doing the same — with increasing frequency and increasing lethality — in Yemen. The latest drone attack happened early Wednesday in the Yemeni town of Azzan, killing nine people. It’s the 23rd strike in Yemen so far this year, according to the Long War Journal. In Pakistan, there have been only 22.

Surely, if America is at war in Pakistan, it’s at war in Yemen, too. And it’s time for the Obama administration to admit it.

For all the handwringing about the undeclared, drone-led war in Pakistan, it’s quietly been eclipsed. Yemen is the real center of the America’s shadow wars in 2012. After the US killed al-Qaida second in command Abu Yahya al-Libi earlier this month, Pakistan is actually running out of significant terrorists to strike. Yemen, by contrast, is a target-rich environment — and that’s why the drones are busier there these days.

The White House has declared al-Qaida’s affiliate in Yemen is to be the biggest terror threat to Americans today. The campaign to neutralize that threat is far-reaching — involving commandos, cruise missiles, and, of course, drone aircraft. It is also, according to some experts on the region, completely backfiring. Since the US ramped up its operations in Yemen in 2009, the ranks of al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula, or AQAP, have swelled from 300 fighters to more than 1,000.

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/06/yemen-war/all/

This is a well reasoned, non-extreme analysis of why our war in Yemen is a problem.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
2. Drone strikes are not helping us win any hearts and minds of the people
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 10:27 AM
Jun 2012

Apologizing for "mistakes" in killing people who are "collateral damage" or chosen without a chance to defend themselves goes against the laws we felt were in place to protect people. Geneva Convention violation and our own US laws.

It's a new way of thinking.

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