Ronnie Raygun. They have a lot of fucking nerve to talk about celebrities when they elected one themselves. But as usual, they do what they complain about, and blame us for doing it.

Obama bought into it...his handlers bought into it...Political Ops who grew up worshiping CELEBRITY bought into it.

What do we get for it? Cheap Thrills and MORE MONEY into our Political System!

Is Obama BETTER taking money from Celebs? What is he to do? Obviously "We the People" can only afford minor amounts from the Dem Party Solicitations.

So...I guess from Obama's point of view...he has to take the money where he can get it.

But...at WHAT PRICE...and WHAT COMPROMISE.

That's the Question that NO DEMS want to have put out there...

I'm a Dem...If I send Pelosi my puny donation to meet her "Matching Fund Solicitation" (that I just got from her in yesterday's mail)....then will "I" be able to match George Clooney or Other Celebs in my Hollywood Influence?

If I work for Halliburton or Rand or Boeing or pick any Corporation.....will "MY" $25.00 make any difference?

How can this be? Well is it "Citizens United?" Or, is there more at work here.

a vested interest just like everyone else. "Or, is there more at work here is a strange statement...

from everyone.

So...You are Correct.

But, have you thought about what you just said and what it means for the Average "trashed" American? Or, do you assume that the only Americans suffering are some Fundie Christians in West Virgiinia working in Coal Mines or Welfare Queens (Reagan's term for African-Americans and others in Poverty America) who are on the DOLE? WHY ARE or WERE in Clinton's America...on WELFARE..in the first place? WHY?

Why do you think I would donate all I could afford.. Would I be supporting Hollywood, Internet IT and other Hollywood interests?

What if I don't even know what they are doing to stiff me for my Internet, Cable, TV Watching Habits? My Cell Phone costs, My Land Line costs, My Cable TV Costs......

If I support Hollywood...with my Donation...am I supporting DRONES (I am against the use of DRONES) or supporting GLOBILIZATION for BANKING INTERESTS?...and ON AND ON AND ON...

My $25.00 multiplied for cluelessness will keep me in poverty. (I, am not in poverty, but I don't want folks in poverty.)

We never get into deep discussions without some kind of wars...

Why is it we Dems can't "Discuss" anymore? Why are we not together, anymore?

Why are we SO DIVIDED here on this Website when we came together to defeat Bush II? ...?

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Air Force One and we are paying for it. I asked where the outrage when Bush used the AF1 to run on his raising money. I also asked where the outrage when Bush sent troops to war without paying for it. They might not post that. They lean to the right. I also asked why does the UK worry that Obama flies around on AF1 at taxpayer expense what does that have to do with their country. I told them they should worry about their own politicans. I don't think that will get posted.

or mean anything to the Dem Core Group who has been on the Internets since 2000 Selection.

We are still here and know how to separate the "Wheat from the Chaff" of MSM Propaganda.

That those of us (and there are many...and Lurkers who KNOW THE HISTORY) throughout the NetTUBES KNOW the DIFFERENCE and that others are trying to convince Long Time Voters and Activists of Democratic Ideals (or what we thought they were) are FIGHTING BACK is an annoying TICK on the BACKS of the New group of DEM OPS who are every step of the way trying to TRASH US...THROW US UNDER THE BUS...and LAUGH ABOUT IT...because their supposed "NEW YOUTH VIE OF AMERICA" is some GLOBALIZED MEGALOPOLY with MEDIA, MIC, CORPORATIONS (MEDIA, INTERNET) as the FUEL FOR THEIR JOBS and THEIR FUTURE.

WELL...the REST OF US are HOPING FOR OUR FUTURE...and WE AIN'T DEAD YET... WE REMEMBER A VERY DIFFERENT DEM PARTY...than THIS....than THIS...

and WE WILL NOT BE SILENT....we know how to do stuff we have a history...and we will not be quiet and we WILL NOT GIVE UP.

We are OLDER...we are WISER...but, we have SKILLS and WISDOM and PERSPECTIVE....

WE ARE OUT THERE ....We WILL NOT BE SILENT.

will fight for them...and that's what our legacy is. I want to go to my grave...knowing I didn't GIVE UP.

Thanks...for seeing this and replying. Not many of us speak out these days about what we know and our perspective and how we are still contributing and will NOT GIVE UP!

We allow them to divide us on this board. We use their talking points as ways to defend what many of our DINO DEMS are doing who are WITH THE REPUGS ON VOTES and AGENDA.

Why can't we be CLEAR about DEM VALUES? Why does Obama shy away from issues that so many thought they voted for him on...and some feel very abandoned.

We need to dig into WHY we vote DEM ...give money, sign petitions and since the Clinto Trashing by the Starr Commission and Carter before him...we seem to not get at the root of the issue is that we DEFEND Our Dems even when they are Wrong...but, in the end...it appears they don't DEFEND we Little People.

It's TABOO. We need to be strong as a party and hold our Democratic Elects Accountable.

We don't do that like the Repugs Do. They get everything they want from THEIR ELECTED...while we sit here worrying about Murdoch, Koch, and Other MIC Funded Websites who TRASH DEMS.

We don't even support our Dem leaning Websites who fight for us. They are always begging for money (I'm not talking about DU or KOS) but other Website trying to do REAL Investigative Journalism and they STARVE FOR FUNDS!

After all these years of Repug Rule and Shennanigans...we still are ruled by what we consider to be RW Repug Websites when we KNOW how they are funded?

But posts here from Dem/Liberal/Left sites are trashed outright or ignored as if the LEFT is the PROPAGANDA and only the RW should be Posted about?

he turned out to be more of a blue dog dem or a liberal republican. I don't think swinging way left or way right people are happy with. But on the other hand nothing is getting solved. We all get screwed. I think when people finally wake up on both sides the congress and senate will shit their pants. They love nothing more than division. Because while there is division the corporations and moving in and ruling the house. We keep losing in america. But mark my words sooner or later the american people on both sides are going to have enough and they are going to rise up and take to the streets. When the government clamps down on them and some die then you will finally see the sleeping american people wake up and fight.

are more important than giving richie rich's more tax cuts and gutting environmental laws.

who want to control more and more of our internet access and charge us more an more.

At least that's what might be part of their support.