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XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
3. Who says being an evangelical conservative
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 08:50 PM
Jun 2012

equals being a racist?

I saw more black people at the charismatic church here than I saw at the MLK celebration.

longship

(40,416 posts)
5. He misspoke, he meant millennialists
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 08:52 PM
Jun 2012
Millennialism

Of course, he says this because he is one himself.

Also lookup eschatology, Armageddon, end of the world, nuclear holocaust, World War III.

JHB

(37,166 posts)
6. He has to say that, or admit they're actively turning away. And he ain't gonna say that publicly.
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 08:57 PM
Jun 2012

He's just whistling over his cash-cow's grave, is all.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
7. The growth of religion is taking the place of the Commons where youth once met. He has a point.
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 08:58 PM
Jun 2012

I have never believed in the inevitability of a change in demographics, not of age, race or ethnicity, that will relieve us of the responsibility to teach the young. Reed is more correct than we want to believe.

Because they have pushed, in one package and for the same reasons, privatization, charter schools, less public and private unions, longer hours which reduce chances for socialization.

They have consolidated media. In some sectors of the country there is nothing on the radio for a person driving but RW punditry and no television station they can receive but a FOX affiliate. The voice is the same, it has generated a sense they are the majority and given them confidence.

They have taken over the secular sphere in ways beyond the imagination of myself, my peers and those much older at any time in our lives. The characterization of Tea Party voters as white and old is not what is going on in legislatures and congress. These are the children born around the Reagan era, brought up in right wing religion, and they are the reason the country is going to the right.

No passing the buck, it's now or never to stop this. Unfortunately, the left continues to squabble and attack each other and our message is being diffused in many ways. We have groups of people who feel they are going to do the best thing by not voting.

But the right, always does. I am past the point of encouraging people willing to leave their fate to these guys. It will be what it will be.

Ilsa

(61,721 posts)
8. I was thinking earlier about how
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 11:00 PM
Jun 2012

parents teach their values. I saw a father with a tshirt with a confederate flag and some Confederate blah-blah written on it. I was thinking "the South lost. Get over it."

And then I saw his 12 year old son wearing a similar shirt. I began to think about the screwed up "southern Confederate pride" model this father was teaching his son so he could grow up to represent those same twisted values.

Even if this kid is being exposed to other cultures in his school setting, his primary values are being developed according to his father's wishes, and the child won't give them up unless the values fail him in a big way somewhere along the way.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
9. Yes, often time old thinking infects young minds. Many of these folks have isolated themselves from
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 11:31 PM
Jun 2012

Any influence that would teach them differently. As a species we adapt to what surrounds us to survive. It is the cause of great joy and suffering, depending on what the environment one lives in is like.

Part of this may simply be from the increase in population and the inability to find resonance with so many people. We seem to be divided a great deal by technology. We no longer seem to need to interact with others as we once did.

So we get off into smaller groups. It doesn't work well to spread a message of tolerance and caring when the best way to unify a group is often to define oneself against another, even if there is not just cause for it.

Thanks for your example, I'm not sure how to get this in balance again, with all this division going on.

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
10. We've been invaded by the evangelical pod people. The theocratic corporate fascist mind
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 11:54 PM
Jun 2012

controlling ass wipes have infested the young! Ralph Reed is a dangerous person and should be shunned.

Edited to add: He also had a thing for Jack Abramoff.

 

KatChatter

(194 posts)
11. Evangelical Conservatism is why me and many people I know
Sun Jun 17, 2012, 05:09 AM
Jun 2012

Are now armed to the teeth.

These are very dangerous people no different than the Taliban or Al Qaeda.

I am firmly convinced that they are on the verge of starting an armed rebellion and President Obama re-election could very well be the tipping point.

They already have committed terrorist acts in this country and will continue to do so and the Government pretty much ignores it because they hide behind their religion.

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