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FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
Sun Jun 17, 2012, 12:39 AM Jun 2012

The wonder of breasts

Our culture is obsessed with breasts, yet we know remarkably little about them. But their secrets are starting to be unravelled, and nothing is more astonishing than breast milk

We love breasts, yet can't quite take them seriously. Breasts embarrass us. They're unpredictable. They're goofy. They can turn babies and grown men into lunkheads.

They appear out of nowhere in puberty, they get bigger in pregnancy, they're capable of producing prodigious amounts of milk, and sometimes they get sick. But for such an enormously popular feature of the human race, it's remarkable how little we know about their basic biology.

The urgency to know and understand breasts has never been greater. Modern life has helped many of us live longer and more comfortably. It has also, however, taken a strange toll on our breasts. For one thing, they are bigger than ever. We are sprouting them at younger ages. We are filling them with saline and silicone and transplanted stem cells to change their shape. This year marks the 50th anniversary of the first silicone implant surgery in Houston, Texas.

More tumours form in the breast than in any other organ, making breast cancer the most common malignancy in women worldwide. Its incidence has almost doubled since the 1940s and is still rising.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2012/jun/16/breasts-breastfeeding-milk-florence-williams
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The wonder of breasts (Original Post) FarCenter Jun 2012 OP
Men can also get breast cancer Angry Dragon Jun 2012 #1
Some people call it that, but technically, men can't get that. They don't have breasts... Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #5
Men do have mammary glands DavidDvorkin Jun 2012 #9
Oops. I stand corrected. nt Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #13
I heard a rumor that we're mammals Warren DeMontague Jun 2012 #2
Careful Kennah Jun 2012 #3
Why would breast milk be astonishing? MineralMan Jun 2012 #4
That increase in breast cancer is appalling treestar Jun 2012 #6
I think the increase is probably related to environmental toxins Voice for Peace Jun 2012 #7
Among other things. Igel Jun 2012 #11
really interesting post Voice for Peace Jun 2012 #15
specifically waddirum Jun 2012 #14
Mods, I hope your page view counters use a long integer. randome Jun 2012 #8
This thread is useless without pictures. edbermac Jun 2012 #10
he is allowed... to get old. nt seabeyond Jun 2012 #12
lol.. his breasts aren't bad either Voice for Peace Jun 2012 #16

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
5. Some people call it that, but technically, men can't get that. They don't have breasts...
Sun Jun 17, 2012, 09:43 AM
Jun 2012

or mammary glands. All they have in that area is what they have in other areas: tissues, lymph nodes, etc.

MineralMan

(146,354 posts)
4. Why would breast milk be astonishing?
Sun Jun 17, 2012, 09:37 AM
Jun 2012

All mammals feed their young with it.

My wonderful wife used to have business cards that had "Mammal" under her name. She's a freelancer, so she had no particular job title. The cards were a big hit.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
6. That increase in breast cancer is appalling
Sun Jun 17, 2012, 09:47 AM
Jun 2012

Maybe because people live longer? Perhaps in a couple hundred years they will be routinely replaced with silicone fakes at a particular age past childbearing.

Igel

(35,393 posts)
11. Among other things.
Sun Jun 17, 2012, 01:23 PM
Jun 2012

Fewer kids. Kids later in life (that seems to matter). Fewer women breastfeeding. And breastfeeding in less regular ways (less volume) for less time.

Earlier puberty.

Even race, although separating out all the other factors--incluing race-based incidence of the known genes related to breast cancer--sometimes leaves "race" with a statistically marginal share of the incidence.

Take a woman who matured at 16 and died at 45 with 5 pregnancies and 3 births, each brood nursed for 9 months. Compare that with an 85-year-old woman who matured at 13 and hit menopause at 48, had two live births and no miscarriages and who didn't breastfeed at all because she wanted to go back to work.

The specific woman I had in mind was the 85-year-old, who's my mother and was diagnosed with breastcancer at age 78.

Fewer kids. Kids later in life. No breastfeeding. Plus she smoked for years--more toxins. (She also worked at a steel mill--additional toxins, although most of them were self-inflicted. In the laundry room she kept trichoroethylene from work and would regularly use to remove stains from clothes.) Statistically she did almost everything possible to predispose herself to breast cancer.

Her twin--one fewer kid, less work-exposure to toxins--developed breast cancer, as well. So her genetics were also probably working against her.

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
15. really interesting post
Sun Jun 17, 2012, 07:52 PM
Jun 2012

and anecdotal info.. thank you.

I used to work in a drycleaner's.. the fumes were so intense. I only worked there for a few months when I was 17. the guy who owned it died of cancer only in his 40's a few years later.

We used to swim downriver in the sludge from nuclear submarine plant and pfizer chemical plant. Lots of people from my childhood died, went mad, got cancer.

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