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NNN0LHI

(67,190 posts)
Sun Jun 17, 2012, 01:04 PM Jun 2012

Did you know that at least 5 of the 7 Watergate burglars had worked for the CIA?

http://www.salon.com/2012/05/05/watergates_final_mystery/

Saturday, May 5, 2012 08:00 AM CDT
Watergate’s final mystery
Underneath the media's obsession with the scandal lies the neglected story of the CIA's role
By Jefferson Morley

<snip>Plenty of people suspected this at the time. The Agency’s fingerprints were evident in the botched burglary at the offices of the Democratic National Committee in the Watergate apartment complex. It was well known that five of the seven burglars had worked for the CIA. Four were Cuban-Americans from Miami involved in the Bay of Pigs operation. It was less well-known that the two ringleaders, James McCord and Howard Hunt, were career officers who had been personally close to Helms for more than a decade.

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Did you know that at least 5 of the 7 Watergate burglars had worked for the CIA? (Original Post) NNN0LHI Jun 2012 OP
Yes. And that the media did their best to make it sound like a little job. Gregorian Jun 2012 #1
anybody remember the "Church Committee" oldhippydude Jun 2012 #2
Were there two pieces at different times of tape over the door to keep it unlocked? graham4anything Jun 2012 #3
I lived Watergate...never heard that one. Lochloosa Jun 2012 #6
I don't think it went down that way grasswire Jun 2012 #7
grasswire you are correct life long demo Jun 2012 #10
The security guard, Frank Wills, had a very sad life post-Watergate, proving coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #14
I don't believe that it was a conspiracy to bring down Nixon. But Brezhnev apparently did RZM Jun 2012 #22
This was the beginning of a right-wing take over of our country. Baitball Blogger Jun 2012 #4
Yup. Major Hogwash Jun 2012 #26
Yes, I did. Nixon gave us so many gifts. Rumsfeld, Kissinger, GHWB, Cheney, Greenspan... freshwest Jun 2012 #5
Pinochet too DBoon Jun 2012 #8
And what Kissinger promoted in Indonesia. Chile was one of the first Milton Friedmann experiments. freshwest Jun 2012 #9
Nixon was recruited by BushCo. n/t EFerrari Jun 2012 #11
Nice little cabal of criminals. freshwest Jun 2012 #12
So Eisenhower and Thomas Dewey are part of Bushco, too? Bolo Boffin Jun 2012 #15
The Nixon-Bush Connection Runs Deeper Than You Know EFerrari Jun 2012 #19
It is getting rather deep in here, I agree. Bolo Boffin Jun 2012 #21
It's not a matter of having or not having sympathy for Nixon. EFerrari Jun 2012 #23
I find what Russ Baker considers to be noteworthy facts Bolo Boffin Jun 2012 #24
He's obviously a self promoter but that doen't really change the material. EFerrari Jun 2012 #25
Had to go find a photo I'd seen when I saw your post. Judi Lynn Jun 2012 #16
But what lies underneath the obsession with the CIA? Robb Jun 2012 #13
You'd be better off not attempting to label other DU'ers as being "obsessed." Judi Lynn Jun 2012 #17
You must've missed the subhead? Robb Jun 2012 #18
You're throwing out the baby with the bath water. EFerrari Jun 2012 #20

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
1. Yes. And that the media did their best to make it sound like a little job.
Sun Jun 17, 2012, 01:12 PM
Jun 2012

There were many breakins. And they were done by the best of the best breakin pros.

We're up against the 1%. And I feel like we don't have a chance in hell. Furthermore, just think of all of the serious things that have happened that were never reported on.

oldhippydude

(2,514 posts)
2. anybody remember the "Church Committee"
Sun Jun 17, 2012, 01:21 PM
Jun 2012

lots of stuff under the rug... Check out "Family of Secrets" all this stuff has Bush family from Prescott forward's fingerprints all over it..

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
3. Were there two pieces at different times of tape over the door to keep it unlocked?
Sun Jun 17, 2012, 01:25 PM
Jun 2012

I never knew if the following was true, but I heard it many times
The burglers put tape on the door, security didn't seem to care, took the tape off and then the burglers put the tape back on the door
(meaning they wanted to be caught).

IF that was true, again, I don't know if that was a stupid conspiracy theory or a fact, but if a fact, that means they wanted to bring Nixon down(which they did).
(Helped along by nixon's paranoia, it worked perfect if that was the case).

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
7. I don't think it went down that way
Sun Jun 17, 2012, 02:18 PM
Jun 2012

And I just read a comprehensive article about it in the last couple of weeks -- damned if I know where, though.

The reason they re-taped the door was that the security guard (who just died incidentally) found the tape and took it off. But the burglars were still in the building, hiding behind desks. One of them retaped the door. The security guard had thought the first taping was simply an innocent instance. But when he found the retaping, he knew someone was in the building. That's when he made the call.

life long demo

(1,113 posts)
10. grasswire you are correct
Sun Jun 17, 2012, 04:03 PM
Jun 2012

From the Digital History website.

"Shortly after 1 a.m. on June 17, 1972, a security guard at the Washington, D.C., Watergate office complex spotted a strip of masking tape covering the lock of a basement door. He removed it. A short while later, he found the door taped open again. He called the police, who found two more taped locks and a jammed door leading into the offices of the Democratic National Committee. Inside they discovered five men carrying cameras and electronic eavesdropping equipment. "

http://www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/database/article_display.cfm?HHID=391


btw Also don't forget G. Gorden Liddy also

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
22. I don't believe that it was a conspiracy to bring down Nixon. But Brezhnev apparently did
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 05:04 AM
Jun 2012

He seemed to believe that the whole thing had been engineered by 'the enemies of detente.'

He also had difficulty understanding why it was such a big deal and was surprised at the public's reaction. He assumed we had a higher tolerance for official corruption.

Baitball Blogger

(46,788 posts)
4. This was the beginning of a right-wing take over of our country.
Sun Jun 17, 2012, 01:40 PM
Jun 2012

Water Gate with Nixon; Iran Contra with Reagan; Yellow cake for GWBII

They are definitely into dirty tricks.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
9. And what Kissinger promoted in Indonesia. Chile was one of the first Milton Friedmann experiments.
Sun Jun 17, 2012, 03:20 PM
Jun 2012

And Greenspan was a fan of Ayn Rand and took her sick view of humanity to new heights or lows. We've been in deep trouble since then.

Bolo Boffin

(23,796 posts)
15. So Eisenhower and Thomas Dewey are part of Bushco, too?
Sun Jun 17, 2012, 04:31 PM
Jun 2012

Methinks your term's definition has stretched out past all usefulness.

EFerrari

(163,986 posts)
19. The Nixon-Bush Connection Runs Deeper Than You Know
Sun Jun 17, 2012, 07:48 PM
Jun 2012

snip

This would not be the only time that Nixon would bestow special favors upon the Bush family. Six months earlier, as the GOP presidential candidate, he had seriously considered Poppy as a potential running mate, even though the latter was just a freshman congressman. Two years after W.’s date with Tricia, following Poppy’s second unsuccessful bid for the U.S. Senate, Nixon named him his ambassador to the United Nations. And two years later, with President Nixon’s nod, Poppy served a stint as chairman of the Republican Party. It was a quick rise from relative obscurity to the highest level of national politics—and all with Nixon’s help.

Taped conversations reveal that Nixon considered Poppy Bush a lightweight. Nevertheless, he repeatedly pushed Poppy ahead, often over people who were much more qualified. This put the elder Bush on the upper rungs of the ladder to the presidency. In all probability, had Nixon not so favored Poppy, he never would have reached the top. And had Poppy Bush not been president, his son George W. Bush almost certainly would not have either.

In no small way, Richard Nixon helped to create the Bush presidential dynasty.

What disposed Nixon so positively toward the Bushes? A little-known fact, certainly missing from the many splendid biographies of the thirty-seventh president, is the likely role of Poppy Bush’s father, Prescott, in launching Nixon’s own political career.


http://articles.businessinsider.com/2012-05-14/politics/31694782_1_watergate-cia-secrets

Bolo Boffin

(23,796 posts)
21. It is getting rather deep in here, I agree.
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 04:57 AM
Jun 2012

I just didn't see any of that in Rick Pearlstein's Nixonland, and I would have sworn Pearlstein had no sympathy for Nixon at all, or the Bushes. Who knew he's in on this coverup, too?

EFerrari

(163,986 posts)
23. It's not a matter of having or not having sympathy for Nixon.
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 11:01 AM
Jun 2012

LOL

You know that facts aren't partisan, right?

Bolo Boffin

(23,796 posts)
24. I find what Russ Baker considers to be noteworthy facts
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 03:10 PM
Jun 2012

not quite so noteworthy and more than a little of a reach.

EFerrari

(163,986 posts)
25. He's obviously a self promoter but that doen't really change the material.
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 03:33 PM
Jun 2012

Maybe you are more focused on some cover up; I'm more interested in uncovering how our oligarchy works. As it happens, Dewey was part of the East Coast Republican, anti-interventionist establishment just as Prescott Bush was. They did have a "friendship" and they both worked to promote Dick Nixon.

Nixon and Reagan's rise were helped out by the Bushes just as RMoney's is being helped now. Oligarchies work the same way all over the world and it wouldn't hurt us a bit to figure out how ours operates so we recognize it when we see it.

Judi Lynn

(160,715 posts)
16. Had to go find a photo I'd seen when I saw your post.
Sun Jun 17, 2012, 05:30 PM
Jun 2012

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Thanks for mentioning something some U.S. Americans simply haven't learned yet.

Judi Lynn

(160,715 posts)
17. You'd be better off not attempting to label other DU'ers as being "obsessed."
Sun Jun 17, 2012, 05:36 PM
Jun 2012

A little time invested in reading would make a lot clear to you which seems to elude you now.

Robb

(39,665 posts)
18. You must've missed the subhead?
Sun Jun 17, 2012, 05:51 PM
Jun 2012

Rude and defensive response otherwise. It was, "Underneath the media's obsession with the scandal lies the neglected story of the CIA's role."

"Scandal" in headlines sold newspapers then; "CIA involvement" sells newspapers now. You think either mainstream media tale is going to get you to truth?

EFerrari

(163,986 posts)
20. You're throwing out the baby with the bath water.
Sun Jun 17, 2012, 07:58 PM
Jun 2012

Where ever there is BushCo, there is CIA and dirty tricks. It was true of Nixon, Raygun, Poppy obviously and Little Boots. Were we to be saddled with Rmoney, it would be true again because he is their candidate as far as I can tell.

Poppy is in bad health and things might change when he's gone. Hard to tell.

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