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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Individual Mandate albatross: Whole packages only as popular as their least popular provision
Percent of people (including Republicans) who support banning insurers from denying coverage based on pre-existing conditions: 82%Percent of people (including Democrats) who strongly oppose the individual mandate provision of the Affordable Care Act: 61%
Viewed as a whole, percent of people who support the Affordable Care Act: 44%
Who oppose: 56%
I don't expect the Supreme Court to strike down the Individual Mandate. It's too big of a bonus to the 1%, and we all know how much the Roberts Court LOVES them some 1%-ers. But, I'm not at all interested in this horse race. I'm much more interested in how we got here, and what we can do differently in the future.
To that end, I think this short article below is valuable. The stats above were lifted from it.
-- brook
What Ballot Initiative Campaigns Teach Us About the Popularity of the ACA
http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2012/06/25/what-ballot-initiative-campaigns-teach-us-about-the-popularity-of-the-aca/
If you talk to people who have run a few ballot initiative campaigns, they will tell you that it is very important to get the language perfect. A ballot initiative may contain a lot of popular provisions, but one unpopular provision can easily cause it to be voted down by the people. The electorate cant separately decide on the individual components; it is forced to accept or reject the whole package. Often initiatives are only as popular as their least popular provision. Its the weak link that breaks the chain.
We have seen the same basic dynamic at play with the lack of popular support for the Affordable Care Act. Once again a new Reuter-Ipsos poll confirms that there are many provision in the ACA that enjoy broad bipartisan support. For example 82 percent of Americans, including a majority of Republicans, support banning insurers from denying coverage based on pre-exisiting conditions. The problem is that the law doesnt only contain this popular provision. It also contains highly unpopular ones, like the individual mandate, which this poll found is opposed by 61 percent of Americans.
Voters judge the whole law as a single package, but the unpopular provisions tend to be given more weight in peoples total analysis than the popular ones. As a result of some deeply unpopular provisions dragging down overall support, only 44 back the law as a whole, while 56 percent oppose.
The whole law isnt unpopular despite containing popular provisions because, as some claim, Republicans brilliantly won the message war. It doesnt mean people are making blind partisan decisions because of the name Obamacare. Obama is after all much more popular than Obamacare. It also doesnt mean people are against the law because they are ignorant of the good things in the law or dont understand the trade offs. A Washington Post poll found just 42 percent want the Supreme Court to throw out the entire law, but when told throwing out the whole law was the only way to get rid of the mandate, support for complete repeal jumped to 55 percent.
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xchrom
(108,903 posts)They don't care how long that message war is drawn out.
nashville_brook
(20,958 posts)would follow precedent? not be an activist whackjob?
no -- they just didn't want a fight and his bullshit answers gave them enough political cover to cast their votes and "move on."
so, why are Democrats unwilling to fight for what is right?
xchrom
(108,903 posts)nashville_brook
(20,958 posts)but then again, i wonder how many even consider "the public good" a viable notion anymore. i think most practicing pols see that as an antiquated notion -- fundraising is all that matters anymore. and hell, we don't even have money enough to put food on the table, keep our kids in school and have decent housing. We The People, are not on anyone's radar.
DirkGently
(12,151 posts)The individual mandate IS the Republican healthcare reform proposal -- from a few years ago. Obama's people apparently thought Republicans would be boxed in when confronted with their own approach, completely underestimating their willingness to perform (and the public's willingness to accept) a complete reversal with zero explanation. It was their idea, but now it's the Worst Thing Ever, plus ... COMMUNISM!
Could the mandate work? Sure, and we'd be far better off with the whole package than without it, but the individual mandate is a patented Republican gift to private insurance, which is the core of the entire healthcare problem. Profit motive and life-and-death human services just don't work. We can regulate them as much as we want, but at the end of the day, they'll still be trying to give the least care for the most money.
It's a classic triangulation fail. Instead of rope-a-doping Republican rhetoric while still currying favor with rich corporations as the administration planned, now we might lose absolutely necessary and beneficial healthcare reform because we freed Republicans to decry their own tacky plan to guarantee insurance company profit in perpetuity.
Maybe at some point here, we'll learn to stop picking up Republican turds and trying to convince ourselves they taste good.
nashville_brook
(20,958 posts)that, the "real constituency" of 1%-er campaign donors would do the heavy lifting to put the Republicans back in their box.
when this was happening (behind closed doors, no less) we jumped up and down trying to get the party to see it was a mistake. but we don't matter. we don't cut checks, and that seems to impair their hearing.
Cenk is absolutely right about this, as are you: you can't work with Republicans b/c they don't operate on the same principles that we do. there's no "good faith." there's no "compromise." there's winning at all costs, by any means...and by "winning" they mean to crush The People into dust until there's nothing left b/c apparently nothing short of this will satisfy their Dark Donorlords.
DirkGently
(12,151 posts)nashville_brook
(20,958 posts)nashville_brook
(20,958 posts)and i say this as someone who regrettably bought into Clinton's New Dem paradigm.
DirkGently
(12,151 posts)the mandate goes, the entire first term was "wasted." Well, no, but way to give them that club to wave around.