They swing between "the market will take care of it," and "it's a socialist hoax." No government solution may be considered.

Unfortunately, calling them names does not solve the problem.


--imm

If every time one of these fucking clowns spouted their bullshit they were laughed at and called clowns there might be some progress.

They still want to slip back but at least they become conscious of the causes and basic nature of the problem.

I can get them to sometimes acknowledge the existence of climate change. But not that anything can or should be done about it.

I am dealing with some extreme true believers. They cannot accept ideas which require government action beyond protecting capitalists.

It's a hobby.

--imm

Granted they were lifelong rural residents who may not have been able to grasp the science with both hands but were able to see the effects on the land they've known and loved. The very rapid loss of animals, trees and plants indigenous to the area. The drying up of the once year round streams and creeks. The more violent and unpredictable weather patterns. You can easily befuddle a man locked in a steel highrise all day but when they have a connection to the land they need little prodding to identify a problem.
Even then though its a tough call. Most people would probably like to think they actually left this world better in some way when they passed. They were a great industrialist, a great developer, a great investor. All things that in the past actually enshrined people as our most laudable citizens. All things now that only leave the planet more desolate and hopeless for those to come. Not a pleasant reality for some to cope with. Much better to wallow in the warmth and familiarity of ignorance.

This is the sort of elephant in the room that no one seems to see.

We decrease population by NOT HAVING children.
We stop carbon emissions by not jumping in our cars. By not getting on planes and flying to our vacations.

The problem with this problem is that the solution entails doing nothing.

And this is why we will not solve it.

which they love, let's face it.

http://articles.marketwatch.com/2011-09-09/commentary/30750008_1_climate-change-climate-research-community-global-warming