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Stinky The Clown

(67,849 posts)
Wed Jun 27, 2012, 01:48 PM Jun 2012

Call for predicitons - SCOTUS healthcare vote

I think they will vote in a way that damages or kills it. What do you think?

Think about option 3. I actually think that is one possible outcome, not by design, but as an unintended consequence.

As always in these sorts of polls, tell us why you voted as you did.


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They will support it
1 (20%)
They will not support it
2 (40%)
They will set in motion a path to single payer
1 (20%)
Other
1 (20%)
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morningfog

(18,115 posts)
2. I predict it stands, in its entirety, with a closely divided court.
Wed Jun 27, 2012, 02:33 PM
Jun 2012

I think that is one of the reasons Scalia was such a whiny ass the other day. I predict it will be based on the interstate commerce clause.

11 Bravo

(23,928 posts)
4. 5-4 overturning the mandate. (Scalia wants the whole thing shit-canned and has a shit hemorrhage ...
Wed Jun 27, 2012, 02:45 PM
Jun 2012

right there on the bench when he doesn't get his way.)

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
6. Because the mandate is not a mandate it will stand.
Wed Jun 27, 2012, 02:58 PM
Jun 2012

7-2 it will stand with Scalia getting the two no votes. Roberts writes the majority opinion.

CTyankee

(63,927 posts)
7. I want to believe that and I hope you are right. But part of me argues that these ideologues
Wed Jun 27, 2012, 04:01 PM
Jun 2012

on the Court are reckless to the extreme and they will stop at nothing to get rid of "Obamacare."
The RWingers on the Court are zealots and they are hellbent on destroying the Welfare State. They are relentless and cruel.

The only way I could imagine not overturning the mandate is a scenario where the insurance companies persuade the justices that an overthrow might likely lead to Single Payer and they would lose their industry and we would get socialized medicine faster. I can only hope that is indeed the case, even tho I would LOVE to see us have Single Payer.

I am taking a depressed view of what is going to happen tomorrow...

Stinky The Clown

(67,849 posts)
8. "Zealot" is a perfect word to describe the court's right wing.
Wed Jun 27, 2012, 08:23 PM
Jun 2012

Scalia is clearly a political activist judge.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
9. They carve it up like a turkey on Thanksgiving
Wed Jun 27, 2012, 08:28 PM
Jun 2012

by striking down the mandate but leaving other parts in tact.


Then the fun begins.


pampango

(24,692 posts)
17. Agree. I think it's 5-4 to strike down the mandate (though the same majority
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 06:36 AM
Jun 2012

could strike down the whole thing). Then a public option or Medicare for all becomes the only constitutional ways to mandate coverage. That will obviously go no where in the House any time soon, but after the election, who knows.

boxman15

(1,033 posts)
13. Court strikes down mandate 5-4
Wed Jun 27, 2012, 09:05 PM
Jun 2012

House Progressive Caucus proceeds to introduce single payer health care. It goes nowhere in the Tea Party House, but it slowly gains popularity in the public as Democrats go on the offensive in the ensuing weeks. Obama embraces the idea a few weeks before the election, and Democrats win back the House and keep the Senate as Obama beats Romney by a comfortable margin. Harry Reid changes the filibuster rule to only require 51 votes to pass anything. House Democrats proceed to pass a Medicare-for-all bill, which narrowly passes the Senate. Obama signs the bill, and Medicare-for-all is made a reality.

This is wishful thinking more than anything, of course.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
16. In an election year.... good luck with that.
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 06:25 AM
Jun 2012

We have House (D)s voting to hold the AG in contempt. You really think there is any shot at all that a single payer can get any traction now?


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