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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI shouldn't be forced to buy for-profit health ins.
If SCOTUS votes to uphold the ACA they are locking in place a for-profit system forever.
This is wrong.
We should have what Europe, Canada and Australia have.
Obamacare is nothing more than a warmed over Republican solution.
madokie
(51,076 posts)I'm not going to try to do that but if you look you can find the information and at the present you misunderstand. My 2 cents
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)FEMA concentration camps where the Obama Death Panels will adjudicate the seriousness of the offence and decide what to do with the organs.
because if the smilie ain't there some dim bulb isn't going to be able to figure it out.
cbdo2007
(9,213 posts)Lydia Leftcoast
(48,217 posts)do it.
I once forgot to paste my car license renewal tags on before the old ones expired. A traffic cop noticed, and I had to pay a fine. In effect, I am forced to pay for and paste on new license plate tags every year.
cbdo2007
(9,213 posts)You have a choice, buy health insurance or pay a fine.
Lydia Leftcoast
(48,217 posts)Most people would say that applying a penalty for not doing something is the same as forcing you to do something.
But I realize that different principles may apply on your planet.
Control-Z
(15,682 posts)there are no consequences. That is how it is written. The fine is negligible as it is, but for those who can't afford the fine or just refuse to pay, there are no consequences. You should read it (the ACA).
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)But then again, that is why this is before SCOTUS. There *isn't* an existing example of how we already do it in this instance.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)But it's the most important piece of legislation since the Magna Carta..
Swede Atlanta
(3,596 posts)There are only civil penalties defined in the law (no criminal penalties) and the government can make a finding that you owe the fee/penalty but they cannot do anything to collect - no levies, no liens, no garnishments, etc. So why have it?
(B) LIMITATIONS ON LIENS AND LEVIES.The Sec- retary shall not
(i) file notice of lien with respect to any property of a taxpayer by reason of any failure to pay the pen- alty imposed by this section, or
(ii) levy on any such property with respect to such failure..
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)And the mandate is the critical part of the legislation..
leftyohiolib
(5,917 posts)MineralMan
(146,354 posts)In fact, it's even more of a mandate; it's a tax. That's how it works in those places you mentioned. Who did you think pays for health care there?
Subsidies for the poor. Payments are based on income. It's, you know, a progressive premium, just like income taxes used to be.
matmar
(593 posts)I'm all for a mandate to pay a tax to fund healthcare for all......like Medicare For All.
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)owes the doctor money. He is a cook and money goes so far. I mean tests cost alot. He has health insurance through work but it is terrible. We usually end up paying for their medicines. To be honest I am sick and tired of having to do that. Really am. He needs to see the doctor and he won't see him. I don't know how much he owes but he is the only one working in his house. What are people suppose to do? His wife had to take her son to the ER the other night because he got hit on his arm and he thought it was broke. His natural father doesn't have insurance on him. My son has put him on his insurance. Going to the ER is going to cost over $1,000 for that visit. My son told his wife he would not pay it. The natural father gives him only $40.00 a per month to help pay for his insurance and that isn't all the time. I told my son that he would end up being responsible he didn't make it clear that he has to pay part of his out of pocket bills. It is crazy. Crazy. We need health care people can afford.
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)will go broke. Isn't EVERYTHING supposed to be for the profit of SOMEONE?