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pokerfan

(27,677 posts)
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 02:23 AM Jun 2012

FNC: Not Enough Doctors For Everyone To Have Health Insurance



Megyn Kelly hosted a panel of doctors to discuss the Affordable Care Act (aka Obama Care) yesterday – and I’m sure you’ll be shocked to know that all three of them opposed it. But what really was shocking was their reasoning that it would create too many patients which would negatively impact those who already have coverage. Rather than consider ways to increase health care providers, they all seemed to think the solution was to make sure there weren’t too many health care consumers. In other words, people should go without treatment so that those who already have coverage are not inconvenienced. Even worse, the doctors complained that too many people would “overuse” medical services.

http://www.newshounds.us/fox_news_obama_care_class_warfare_there_s_not_enough_doctors_for_everyone_to_have_health_insurance_06282012
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FNC: Not Enough Doctors For Everyone To Have Health Insurance (Original Post) pokerfan Jun 2012 OP
The same thing was said about Medicare in 1965 bluestateguy Jun 2012 #1
FNC has managed to out do itself nadinbrzezinski Jun 2012 #2
What a minute -- what about the vaunted "demand stimulates supply"? . . . Journeyman Jun 2012 #3
This is what for-profit medicine has done to us Scootaloo Jun 2012 #4
At 3:55 Quantess Jun 2012 #5
They are more effective due to changes in tissue as one ages, but there are other ways to be checked freshwest Jun 2012 #6
That's really weird. Quantess Jun 2012 #7
Nah, that's the GOP's version of voyeurism. Getting up close and personal with those wimmen. freshwest Jun 2012 #8
I understood mammograms are more accurate in older women, pnwmom Jun 2012 #13
Yup, you can see I was falling asleep, misspelling and reversing myself. You're right. I'll edit. freshwest Jun 2012 #15
I thought so! Quantess Jun 2012 #16
Perhaps he was paid to lie like that, huh? *wink, wink* You betcha! freshwest Jun 2012 #17
iow, Conservative Death Panels n/t RainDog Jun 2012 #9
People keep not believing me when I say the point is to get rid of people. Zalatix Jun 2012 #10
Propaganda Greggers Jun 2012 #11
Yep, these a-holes think they deserve more than others Live and Learn Jun 2012 #12
I've been wondering why we don't find more threads about that. BlueIris Jun 2012 #14
I guess these doctors never heard about this quotation... GarroHorus Jun 2012 #18
There will be after the government begins those incentives for family physicians in the form of nanabugg Jun 2012 #19
Cuba has twice the number of doctors per capita as the US. GeorgeGist Jun 2012 #20
good, more kids go to med school...more doctors...more wealth...this is a good thing spanone Jun 2012 #21

Journeyman

(15,047 posts)
3. What a minute -- what about the vaunted "demand stimulates supply"? . . .
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 02:38 AM
Jun 2012

Or does that system not work when its pressed into the service of ideals Fox does not support?

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
5. At 3:55
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 02:56 AM
Jun 2012

One of the men rants about how he expects to be micromanaged by obamacare. Obamacare will tell him he "can't do a mammogram over the age of 40"

Was that an accident?

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
6. They are more effective due to changes in tissue as one ages, but there are other ways to be checked
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 03:14 AM
Jun 2012

Last edited Thu Jun 28, 2012, 12:23 PM - Edit history (1)

When one is younger and the tissue more dense. Just more disinformation.

The earlier part about too many people is their standard excuse to deny equality under the law. They really outted themselves there.

Any law that covers everyone is bad!

Not just in health care. In everything.

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
7. That's really weird.
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 03:23 AM
Jun 2012

I thought for sure age 40 is when the doctor tells you to get your first mammogram if you haven't had one yet.

In any case, I don't see any reason why we should believe that doctors will be told not to do mammograms. We are to believe that Barack Obama himself will step into the doctor's room, wearing a turban, telling doctors what to do.

pnwmom

(109,028 posts)
13. I understood mammograms are more accurate in older women,
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 05:13 AM
Jun 2012

because they have less dense breast tissue.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
15. Yup, you can see I was falling asleep, misspelling and reversing myself. You're right. I'll edit.
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 12:20 PM
Jun 2012

I can always tell when it's time to hang it up when I forget my naughts and turn things backwards.

Waiting until 40 would be the correct thing to do, instead, Faux lied again...



Quantess

(27,630 posts)
16. I thought so!
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 02:30 PM
Jun 2012

And that old coot of a doctor is a regular on FOX.
So it's not likely he just got flustered and misspoke in front of the camera. That was deliberate prevarication!

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
17. Perhaps he was paid to lie like that, huh? *wink, wink* You betcha!
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 03:08 PM
Jun 2012

I have a dear friend who is a doctor.

He was once hired to review automobile accident claims for an insurance group. He said the pay was high and there was an additional bonus per claimd denied.

He quit as soon as he realized they were lying to deny the claims of people who were hurt and had a low opinion of the doctor who say what they're paid to say, even called them prostitutes. I can still remember the disgust as he talked.

He did several different kinds of work and finally set up his own practice to escape it and wasn't as rich as he could have been, but was able to be honest.

 

Zalatix

(8,994 posts)
10. People keep not believing me when I say the point is to get rid of people.
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 04:25 AM
Jun 2012

And then you get examples of this that explode right in your face: "there'll be too many patients".

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
12. Yep, these a-holes think they deserve more than others
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 04:36 AM
Jun 2012

including the right to live. The sad thing is that so many people today seem to feel that way and most of them have the nerve to call themselves "Christian".

BlueIris

(29,135 posts)
14. I've been wondering why we don't find more threads about that.
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 08:23 AM
Jun 2012

I don't know a single doctor who isn't intensely aware of how the physician shortage is already impacting the public.

 

GarroHorus

(1,055 posts)
18. I guess these doctors never heard about this quotation...
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 03:12 PM
Jun 2012

I swear to fulfill, to the best of my ability and judgment, this covenant:

I will respect the hard-won scientific gains of those physicians in whose steps I walk, and gladly share such knowledge as is mine with those who are to follow.

I will apply, for the benefit of the sick, all measures [that] are required, avoiding those twin traps of overtreatment and therapeutic nihilism.

I will remember that there is art to medicine as well as science, and that warmth, sympathy, and understanding may outweigh the surgeon's knife or the chemist's drug.

I will not be ashamed to say "I know not", nor will I fail to call in my colleagues when the skills of another are needed for a patient's recovery.

I will respect the privacy of my patients, for their problems are not disclosed to me that the world may know. Most especially must I tread with care in matters of life and death. If it is given to me to save a life, all thanks. But it may also be within my power to take a life; this awesome responsibility must be faced with great humbleness and awareness of my own frailty. Above all, I must not play at God.

I will remember that I do not treat a fever chart, a cancerous growth, but a sick human being, whose illness may affect the person's family and economic stability. My responsibility includes these related problems, if I am to care adequately for the sick.

I will prevent disease whenever I can, for prevention is preferable to cure.

I will remember that I remain a member of society with special obligations to all my fellow human beings, those sound of mind and body as well as the infirm.

If I do not violate this oath, may I enjoy life and art, be respected while I live and remembered with affection thereafter. May I always act so as to preserve the finest traditions of my calling and may I long experience the joy of healing those who seek my help.

 

nanabugg

(2,198 posts)
19. There will be after the government begins those incentives for family physicians in the form of
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 03:14 PM
Jun 2012

grants and other benefits.

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