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NYC Liberal

(20,139 posts) Thu Jun 28, 2012, 10:09 AM Jun 2012

SCOTUS upholds individual mandate?

10:08
Amy Howe: The individual mandate survives as a tax.

10:09
Amy Howe: It's very complicated, so we're still figuring it out.

10:10
Kali: We are still here. Don't worry.

10:10
Tom: So the mandate is constitutional. Chief Justice Roberts joins the left of the Court.

10:11
Amy Howe: The Medicaid provision is limited but not invalidated.

From SCOTUSBlog: http://www.scotusblog.com/cover-it-live/

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SCOTUS upholds individual mandate? (Original Post) NYC Liberal Jun 2012 OP

CNN.com says it was struck down. sinkingfeeling Jun 2012 #1

More reports saying mandate is constitutional, with Roberts in the majority. NYC Liberal Jun 2012 #5

As a mandate of the Commerce clause, yes, but as a tax, the mandate survives. n/t Bolo Boffin Jun 2012 #6

CNN reporting just the opposite. nt sufrommich Jun 2012 #2

Looks to be 5-4 with Roberts joining the left of the court on it being a tax. Bolo Boffin Jun 2012 #3

Interesting, isn't it? mmonk Jun 2012 #4

SCOTUS BLOG ****MANDATE SURVIVES AS A TAX?****** uponit7771 Jun 2012 #7

sinkingfeeling

(51,499 posts)

1. CNN.com says it was struck down.

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Thu Jun 28, 2012, 10:10 AM

Jun 2012

NYC Liberal

(20,139 posts)

5. More reports saying mandate is constitutional, with Roberts in the majority.

Reply to sinkingfeeling (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 10:11 AM

Jun 2012

Bolo Boffin

(23,796 posts)

6. As a mandate of the Commerce clause, yes, but as a tax, the mandate survives. n/t

Reply to sinkingfeeling (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 10:11 AM

Jun 2012

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)

2. CNN reporting just the opposite. nt

Reply to NYC Liberal (Original post)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 10:10 AM

Jun 2012

Bolo Boffin

(23,796 posts)

3. Looks to be 5-4 with Roberts joining the left of the court on it being a tax.

Reply to NYC Liberal (Original post)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 10:11 AM

Jun 2012

Just now: "The bottom line: the entire ACA is upheld, with the exception that the federal government's power to terminate states' Medicaid funds is narrowly read."

I just saw a tweet about it being 6-3, which does make more sense. But Amy Howe of SCOTUSblog said Roberts joined the left and that doesn't usually describe Kennedy.

More:

"Tom: Chief Justice Roberts' vote saved the ACA."

That sounds 5-4 to me.

mmonk

(52,589 posts)

4. Interesting, isn't it?

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Thu Jun 28, 2012, 10:11 AM

Jun 2012

uponit7771

(90,378 posts)

7. SCOTUS BLOG ****MANDATE SURVIVES AS A TAX?******

Reply to NYC Liberal (Original post)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 10:12 AM

Jun 2012

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