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pampango

(24,692 posts) Thu Jun 28, 2012, 11:02 AM Jun 2012

UK Guardian: Roberts defection to the liberal wing on ACA will "sink the US conservative movement

into deep gloom."

Wow: it appears that the so-called swing vote on the court, Anthony Kennedy, actually joined Scalia, Alito and Thomas in voting against the law – and that Chief Justice Roberts voted to uphold.

it appears that John Roberts joined the liberal wing in upholding the healthcare law and individual mandate. This is significant in itself and news that will sink the US conservative movement into deep gloom.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/law/2012/jun/28/supreme-court-ruling-health-care-live?newsfeed=true

It will be interesting to see how republicans and teabaggers react to Roberts joining the "liberal wing" on such an important case.

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UK Guardian: Roberts defection to the liberal wing on ACA will "sink the US conservative movement (Original Post) pampango Jun 2012 OP

i'd like to see them sunk barbtries Jun 2012 #1

Maybe Roberts got visited by 3 ghosts last night nt One of the 99 Jun 2012 #2

That would rock but... flamingdem Jun 2012 #3

Now that would be a joyous thing liberal N proud Jun 2012 #4

Thread headline missing "into deep gloom" thus bit misleading. nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2012 #5

I doubt he is diving into the pool, just getting his toes wet. rurallib Jun 2012 #6

He better have good security. One of those nutfuckers may try to whack him. lonestarnot Jun 2012 #7

The ultracon reaction is to get energized and active and fight the election hard Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2012 #8

Especially now with CITIZENS UNITED. NYC Liberal Jun 2012 #12

I would like to see this as a first step in dismantling of conservatism across the globe Rambis Jun 2012 #9

This law is one of the most authoritarian, corporate right wing abominations ever passed Leopolds Ghost Jun 2012 #11

Roberts joined the radical authoritarian wing of SCOTUS, siding with Gingrich and Romney Leopolds Ghost Jun 2012 #10

they ruled correctly as to constitutionality. they did not opine on the wisdom of the law. unblock Jun 2012 #14

Oh bullshit. His "defection" was planned all along. woo me with science Jun 2012 #13

barbtries

(28,824 posts)

1. i'd like to see them sunk

Reply to pampango (Original post)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 11:03 AM

Jun 2012

into oblivion. deep gloom is not enough.

One of the 99

(2,280 posts)

2. Maybe Roberts got visited by 3 ghosts last night nt

Reply to pampango (Original post)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 11:03 AM

Jun 2012

flamingdem

(39,342 posts)

3. That would rock but...

Reply to pampango (Original post)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 11:04 AM

Jun 2012

the Guardian is being too logical, sadly the wingnuts still have some life left in em.

liberal N proud

(60,352 posts)

4. Now that would be a joyous thing

Reply to pampango (Original post)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 11:04 AM

Jun 2012

The conservative movement is extreme and needs to be stopped.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,088 posts)

5. Thread headline missing "into deep gloom" thus bit misleading. nt

Reply to pampango (Original post)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 11:05 AM

Jun 2012

nt.

rurallib

(62,491 posts)

6. I doubt he is diving into the pool, just getting his toes wet.

Reply to pampango (Original post)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 11:06 AM

Jun 2012

But, damn it would be funny if he did switch.
Be just like Earl Warren and Eisenhower.

lonestarnot

(77,097 posts)

7. He better have good security. One of those nutfuckers may try to whack him.

Reply to pampango (Original post)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 11:06 AM

Jun 2012

I guess aleato has some fucking heartburn. Hey Grimace, Thomas and Scalia how does it feel to have your face wiped with our asses?

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,088 posts)

8. The ultracon reaction is to get energized and active and fight the election hard

Reply to pampango (Original post)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 11:06 AM

Jun 2012

Take care.

Rust never sleeps.

Best not be complacent over this ruling.

NYC Liberal

(20,139 posts)

12. Especially now with CITIZENS UNITED.

Reply to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #8)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 11:11 AM

Jun 2012

Rambis

(7,774 posts)

9. I would like to see this as a first step in dismantling of conservatism across the globe

Reply to pampango (Original post)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 11:06 AM

Jun 2012

I don't know if it is but they have been feeding the working people of the world this load of BS for 30 years. Backlash!

Leopolds Ghost

(12,875 posts)

11. This law is one of the most authoritarian, corporate right wing abominations ever passed

Reply to Rambis (Reply #9)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 11:09 AM

Jun 2012

It was written by and for the insurance industry, they said so themselves in the paper years ago.

Don't people here read the newspaper? Aren't people here familiar with what liberal means?

What universal health care means?

Leopolds Ghost

(12,875 posts)

10. Roberts joined the radical authoritarian wing of SCOTUS, siding with Gingrich and Romney

Reply to pampango (Original post)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 11:07 AM

Jun 2012

The corporatist wing lost to the radical authoritarian, mercantilist wing on this issue.

unblock

(52,511 posts)

14. they ruled correctly as to constitutionality. they did not opine on the wisdom of the law.

Reply to Leopolds Ghost (Reply #10)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 11:26 AM

Jun 2012

yes, this is a right-wing law.
however, there's nothing unconstitutional about it.
and calling the 4 center-left justices the "radical authoritarian wing" is absolute nonsense.

had they called it a "tax, payable to the treasury via the irs, coupled with a 100% offsetting credit if you have qualifying health insurance or any of a few other exemptions" no one would have doubted its constitutionality for one second.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)

13. Oh bullshit. His "defection" was planned all along.

Reply to pampango (Original post)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 11:11 AM

Jun 2012

The corporatists wanted this, in both parties. Of course it was upheld.

They have managed to entrench the bloodsucking corporate middlemen into our health care system; ensured that not a single American, from birth to death, will be able to avoid them; and killed the possibility of actual affordable health care.

It was a slick bipartisan scam, and we are the ones who will pay.

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