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proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 03:49 PM Jun 2012

My GOP congress rep just said even the left will want to repeal this law

Kevin Yoder KS 3rd district. He's being interviewed on local radio.

And he just said even the left will want to repeal the ACA.

So tell me, left people, do you want to repeal this law?

I'll forward the results of this poll to Congressman Yoder.


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My GOP congress rep just said even the left will want to repeal this law (Original Post) proud2BlibKansan Jun 2012 OP
What an odd "selling point" for him to use. nt gateley Jun 2012 #1
He's an idiot. proud2BlibKansan Jun 2012 #3
What is the matter with us? They have no problem getting candidates -- gateley Jun 2012 #7
The party establishment have given up on Kansas pstokely Jun 2012 #13
Be sure and tell him he's an idiot in MY book. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2012 #2
LOL will do. proud2BlibKansan Jun 2012 #6
Yeah, because we all want to keep holding BAKE SALES to pay for cancer treatments. progressivebydesign Jun 2012 #4
I am fond of those canisters on the counters of convenience stores. rurallib Jun 2012 #5
I've used them as an example to support single-payer Scootaloo Jun 2012 #9
My friend's mother recently passed away Scootaloo Jun 2012 #8
A friend of mine died last year. His wife was a med student. proud2BlibKansan Jun 2012 #10
It amazes me... Scootaloo Jun 2012 #11
Repeal? No. Make irrelevant? Yup. Warren Stupidity Jun 2012 #12
Tack on a public option, such as buying into Medicare meow2u3 Jun 2012 #14
No. It's not what we want but it's better than what we had. MrSlayer Jun 2012 #15
That's exactly right. proud2BlibKansan Jun 2012 #17
k&r for exposure. Laelth Jun 2012 #16
Is this proof that the "left" that wanted the law struck down isn't really "left" after all? joshcryer Jun 2012 #18
No...I think we screwed it up big time but I'm not interested in having that fight all over again. ibegurpard Jun 2012 #19
It's better than what we had proud2BlibKansan Jun 2012 #20
I vote yes. Zalatix Jun 2012 #21

gateley

(62,683 posts)
7. What is the matter with us? They have no problem getting candidates --
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 04:04 PM
Jun 2012

why do we always -- or too often, anyway -- seem to be willing let this happen?

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
4. Yeah, because we all want to keep holding BAKE SALES to pay for cancer treatments.
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 03:54 PM
Jun 2012

this is just his talking point that was faxed to him this morning. The Big Lie.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
9. I've used them as an example to support single-payer
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 04:08 PM
Jun 2012

The conversation goes like this...

Single-Payer Skeptic: "Man, I don't want to have to pay for someone else's medical care!"
Me: "Ever seen one of those cans at the Chevron, where someone's asking donations for their treatment?"
SPS: "Well, yeah, sure."
Me: "Did you ever put a dollar into one of those?"
SPS: "Well, yeah, when I can afford it, it's the right thing to do."
Me: "When you do that, you're paying for that person's treatment. In fact you are paying a larger amount for the same treatment than you would under a single-payer plan, since single-payer spreads the cost out over many people. And Single-Payer would guarantee treatment for that person, rather than falling short because not enough people donated."

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
8. My friend's mother recently passed away
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 04:04 PM
Jun 2012

She was suffering from throat cancer, and she was unable to get coverage prior to the ACA, and by the time she could, it was far too late; the cancer had metastasized to her brain. She passed two weeks ago, and he and his family are absolutely shattered.

I do not like the individual mandate. I would strongly prefer single-payer. But I cannot make the perfect the enemy of the good. Had this been in place three, or even two years ago, perhaps my friend and his fifty-six year old, lovely mother would still get together on weekends to paint, as they did before this struck her down.

proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
10. A friend of mine died last year. His wife was a med student.
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 04:20 PM
Jun 2012

He had lost his job and had no insurance. He decided to go back to school and signed up for a school policy but there was a 90 day waiting period. During that time, he developed a pain in his leg. He didn't want to worry his wife and he thought it was just a minor thing. He mentioned it to his mother who told him to go to the doctor. But he didn't. His wife came home one day and found him, dead. The pain was a blood clot that traveled to his heart.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
11. It amazes me...
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 04:28 PM
Jun 2012

To realize that there are people who would rather suffer through poor, even dangerously poor health, than go to a doctor they cannot afford. The fear of not having money, of owing debt and having collectors come knocking, can be more powerful than the fear of what the consequences of going untreated will be.

Of course it's not their fault and they are owed no blame. This is simply a logical consequence of our disgusting system that treats health care like a commodity, rather than a necessity. People need it to live, but our economic and political structure acts as if it's "on the side," like guacamole on your burger or something; if you want it, pay extra.

meow2u3

(24,778 posts)
14. Tack on a public option, such as buying into Medicare
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 06:01 PM
Jun 2012

I'm one of those who believes that the ACA doesn't go far enough. If if weren't for Ted Kennedy passing away at such an inopportune time, i.e., before the final vote, we would have had the votes to invoke cloture and pass what I'd call "Medicare Part E" ('E' for "everyone&quot .

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
16. k&r for exposure.
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 10:32 PM
Jun 2012

Truth be told, if you had asked me this morning, I would have said repeal.

Now, after reading the SCOTUS ruling, I am more joyful than I have been in a long time.

Definitely, DO NOT repeal the ACA!

-Laelth

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
19. No...I think we screwed it up big time but I'm not interested in having that fight all over again.
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 11:28 PM
Jun 2012

Move forward and start fixing things in it

 

Zalatix

(8,994 posts)
21. I vote yes.
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 11:44 PM
Jun 2012

I would like to see us pass a "Medicare For All" law that serves as a de facto repeal of the ACA.

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