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The "Fast and Furious" imbroglio may have just gone sideways on House Republicans. Just prior to them leading a House vote for contempt against Attorney General Eric Holder on Thursday, a far-reaching investigation published by Fortune magazine poked major holes in the conservative storyline about the alleged gun operation. Claims that law enforcement engaged in a deadly plot to let Mexican outlaws smuggle US guns, the magazine reports, are based on allegations by a lone whistleblower who may in fact be the only person who did any illegal gun-smuggling. The real cause of violence and crime south of the border, it reports, is lax gun laws in Arizona and elsewhere pushed by Republicans and their friends at the National Rifle Association....
According to Fortune, though, almost everything about the story that Republicans have been flogging is wrong. And the magazine makes the case that the GOP's allegations against Holder and the Obama administration aren't just inaccuraterather, they distract from the possibility that GOP's politics are actually to blame for the deluge of three-quarters of a million American guns per year into Mexico. "Republicans who support the National Rifle Association and its attempts to weaken gun laws are lambasting ATF agents for not seizing enough weaponsones that, in this case, prosecutors deemed to be legal," the report states....
* ATF agents did not recruit anyone to buy weapons and pass them to criminals, with a single exception: John Dodson, the renegade agent who allegedly blew the whistle on the "Fast & Furious" operation. Against Voth's express instructions, Dodsonwho according to Fortune's account was a seemingly insubordinate, slapdash former narcotics cop from Virginia that even his ex-partner describes as "an asshole""used $2,500 in ATF funds to purchase six AK Draco pistols from local gun dealers," then passed them on to a suspected gun trafficker, then...went on vacation.
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/06/fast-and-furious-investigation-going-sideways-gop
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)TrollBuster9090
(5,955 posts)Most of 'Papers Please' struck down, and the rest left open for a suit.
Obamacare confirmed "CONSTITUTIONAL"
Voting Holder in Contempt ONE DAY after a Fortune article proving the whole F&F contrived 'scandal' is bullshit.
Poor little things. I almost feel sorry for them. If they weren't such a gang of criminals I probably would.
madrchsod
(58,162 posts)fortune magazine is`t a leftist commie rag!
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)just this morning when I read about the contempt charges I thought this is going to blow up on the GOP.
jpak
(41,761 posts)and demanding that Holder resign
yup
omg
chknltl
(10,558 posts)joshcryer
(62,287 posts)the Gungeon is very predictible - their imagined life without their precious killing weapons kills ALL logic
turtlerescue1
(1,013 posts)Had CSPAN on, loved it when the Dems walked out, boldly! Kept yelling at those who stayed!
Its the only time I really yell at the television.
Loved Holder's response to the farce.
Pelosi was also at her best, except when she dropped her earring later.
Comrade_McKenzie
(2,526 posts)The country would be better off.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)I love it .
I'd steal it if I could
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)I liked this one the best, but the others were great, too
flamingdem
(39,342 posts)FAIL
booley
(3,855 posts)but i doubt the republicans will care.
Stories linking gun violence in mexico to lax American gun laws have been in the news for years. On TV and Print and the internets.
The right simply refuses to believe.
And it's not as if this is the only example.
How did those investigations clearing Acorn of wrong doing go?
Skittles
(153,321 posts)they have to invent their outrages
krispos42
(49,445 posts)[font size="1"]Obama's a practicing homosapien, and his "wife" experimented with thespianism in college... [/font]
Shhhh.... October surprise... and I was never here.
Skittles
(153,321 posts)WOOT!
sorry, I was just so excited to see you
krispos42
(49,445 posts)TrollBuster9090
(5,955 posts)Homo Erectus Non-Erectus
RUSH LIMBAUGH (not exactly as shown)
Tigress DEM
(7,887 posts)Skittles
(153,321 posts)Obama ain't tomcatting around, so they have to clutch their pearls over imagined bullshit like The Reverend, Solyndra and "Fast and Furious"..........alas for them, all of those together don't even come close a stained dress.
chknltl
(10,558 posts)I hope this information gets better airplay, will be watching to see how it plays out. Add my KnR for posting this good find.
On a related note, my step kid a 'student' of alex jones, just regailed me with the right wing nutter story of how Fast and Furious is a conspiracy against our second amendment rights.
Supposedly alex jones (accdg to stepkid) is the only one on the radio telling his listeners the truth. Imo, he is a paid shill for the corporatists who seek to replace progressives as well as President Obama.
myrna minx
(22,772 posts)Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Darrell Issa wouldn't know how to investigate a car theft, but he might know how to steal one
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)These bastards cherry picked the data to fit their version of reality until they built a complete fiction and then they went crazy over their own lies and made fools of themselves.
And they call themselves the adults.....
Chiyo-chichi
(3,592 posts)I hope Jon Stewart will cover this. He took the wrong tack on the story.
BumRushDaShow
(130,133 posts)Whatever they rail about against someone else, the true guilty party is themselves.
Ghost of Huey Long
(322 posts)For instance...When they are shouting 'voter fraud' in Wisconsin(and elsewhere), it really means they are stealing the election via election fraud.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)fantasy flights like this don't help the cause. Of course they lied, of course the contempt vote was 100% political. This is the behavior that gets Repukes MORe votes, not less.
TrollBuster9090
(5,955 posts)On the other hand, the one day time frame probably had the opposite effect on Democrats. It gave them the final push needed to tell the NRA to fuck off, and either vote NO or WALK OUT in protest.
The timing of the article couldn't have been better if it had been crafted by Plouffe.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)He did not even have to investigate himself but then he would not be able to excite the gin nuts and money would not pour into GOP and NRA. They need to be shown for the lies they produce. The family needs to know the truth, failures of Maricopa county to take action all plays into sheriff Joe to try to make a mountain out of nothing because the DOJ is investigating.
fascisthunter
(29,381 posts)Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)The Repugs will have a hell of a time condemning them. Gotta love it.
SaveAmerica
(5,342 posts)Or cover-up? Someone is involved but they turn the tables on Obama and release just enough to implicate others while Dems won't reveal the bits that show the Republicans evidence isn't the whole story.
Will continue searching for the list of congressmen who voted in contempt unless someone knows a link for me - thanks!
SaveAmerica
(5,342 posts)That's just awesome! So sweet. At what point do we consider them not a Democrat and therefore can care less if they win or lose in November?
I've had many people say I should still support him and help him win AGAIN because a Republican would be worse. Tell me how? He wined and dined progressives in '08, we were sure we had someone of quality on our side, he kept saying he, too, was tired of people who played politics in office. Now he's put the NRA and their support/money/his campaign over doing what's right. I don't see how he's of any benefit to our district.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Mine walked out.
Primary him? Don't see how he can explain this away.
SaveAmerica
(5,342 posts)but they stepped down. I almost had a sense that folks (Democratic Powers that Be) advised them not to run, the old 'he's better than a Republican' line maybe? The only way I can imagine they think he's a benefit is just the psychological factor of the number of Dems versus R's in congress?
It is a hard place to be, I want a walker! I want a real Democrat in Congress, no I want the Democrat I volunteered 15+ hours a day to keep his promises.
treestar
(82,383 posts)I'm lucky not to be in one and not sure what I'd do. I tend to say a Democrat is better than a Republican. But then it would be hard to work to elect someone who voted this way.
SaveAmerica
(5,342 posts)For the people who say that a Dem in the seat is a psychological benefit for Obama didn't see this one coming I guess. This stabbing in the back will only be a negative for Obama in NC in November. Maybe if he was a quiet conservative Democratic I could see it, but this kind of betrayal after Obama campaigned with him is hideous.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002902191