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vard28

(1,111 posts)
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 05:50 PM Jun 2012

Help with funeral planning.

Okay, this is not a joke, and not meant to be crass or disrespectful. If you don't want to respond publicly, I would be happy if you sent me a private message. I am helping out a friend who is trying to plan her mother's funeral on a tight budget. Mom has three life insurance policies that total up to less than $10,000 and they live in a hoity-toity area that is much more expensive than a lot of others.

Has anyone or do you know of anyone that ordered caskets online? Their prices are SO much lower than the funeral home. They offer free ground shipping and all of these online sites say that funeral homes are required by federal law to accept these caskets from outside businesses.

Thanks in advance if you can help either way. : )

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Help with funeral planning. (Original Post) vard28 Jun 2012 OP
I've seen them advertised at Costco. yellerpup Jun 2012 #1
We just found Costco too vard28 Jun 2012 #6
You're welcome, vard28. yellerpup Jun 2012 #13
Unless it was specifically requested. I really do encourage cremation, no casket involved. A nice monmouth Jun 2012 #2
I guess if one can consider it "fortunate", I was able to deal with a small town funeral home... hlthe2b Jun 2012 #3
Sorry about your friend's mom passing, and I know it's a matter of what a person wants but did the WI_DEM Jun 2012 #4
I might point out that cremation was never a consideration where I grew up, BUT....I think it is hlthe2b Jun 2012 #8
I gave my Mother's ashes to the sea, so every time I pass by the shore, I'm near her. . . Journeyman Jun 2012 #12
Trying to help...... KBlagburn Jun 2012 #5
Thanks vard28 Jun 2012 #10
I had to do this twice and it is no fun cindyperry2010 Jun 2012 #7
Some state's morturary laws won't allow that & a very cheap temporary casket may be required hlthe2b Jun 2012 #9
you know i completely for got to mention that cindyperry2010 Jun 2012 #17
Here's one. rug Jun 2012 #11
Ok ... there is something more important that the casket. JoePhilly Jun 2012 #14
Just out of curiosity, but why would anyone care if the casket gets crushed? hedgehog Jun 2012 #16
Short answer ... Because the body inside also gets crushed. JoePhilly Jun 2012 #19
A wooden vault is also a possiblitiy..... KBlagburn Jun 2012 #20
I hate to say this ... but if it was a basic "pine box", it also got crushed. JoePhilly Jun 2012 #21
I just paid for my mothers funeral, it ran doc03 Jun 2012 #15
my mothers was around 5400 and cindyperry2010 Jun 2012 #18
My grandmother's will explicitly instructed that she be cremated at the lowest possible cost slackmaster Jun 2012 #22
Wow... that sounds high to me blaze Jun 2012 #26
There's these cardboard ones - very cheap jannyk Jun 2012 #23
The 'Very cheap coffin' of which I speak is cardboard... angstlessk Jun 2012 #25
I have heard that some funeral homes will 'rent' a fancy coffin for display, but bury angstlessk Jun 2012 #24
The price list the funeral home gave me was would you believe doc03 Jun 2012 #28
Theives..all of them...they play on greif.. angstlessk Jun 2012 #29
5 years ago it cost under $3500 whistler162 Jun 2012 #27

yellerpup

(12,254 posts)
1. I've seen them advertised at Costco.
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 05:52 PM
Jun 2012

From under $2K. I looked up the link for you...not shilling for them, but here's a place to start:

http://www.costco.com/Common/Category.aspx?cat=20596&eCat=BC|20595|20596&lang=en-US&whse=BC

vard28

(1,111 posts)
6. We just found Costco too
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 05:59 PM
Jun 2012

Thanks yeller. These prices are lower than the funeral home as well. I appreciate the link.

yellerpup

(12,254 posts)
13. You're welcome, vard28.
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 06:14 PM
Jun 2012

You are a good friend to help make these arrangements. Sorry for your loss. Good luck.

monmouth

(21,078 posts)
2. Unless it was specifically requested. I really do encourage cremation, no casket involved. A nice
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 05:54 PM
Jun 2012

memorial service then private cremation. The funeral director will not advise this as they lose the money on what is usually an overpriced casket. I am clueless to caskets online. Hope this helps..

hlthe2b

(102,577 posts)
3. I guess if one can consider it "fortunate", I was able to deal with a small town funeral home...
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 05:55 PM
Jun 2012

that had been in the locale --that my parents grew up and ultimately were buried in--for multiple generations. Being able to deal with them to help and not "burn" my sister and I as we planned two out-of-state funerals a mere three months apart was a "blessing", however.

So, if you believe you can trust the funeral home/director/laying it out what you have to spend should suffice, but I know there are bad actors out there. That said, I do know that Costco started selling caskets--though I've never seen them in the stores I've visited. I suppose their website would have them.


Good luck. It is kind of you to help your friend.

WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
4. Sorry about your friend's mom passing, and I know it's a matter of what a person wants but did the
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 05:55 PM
Jun 2012

mother rule out cremation? that is probably the cheapest alternative. We all turn to dust anyway. Good luck and again so sorry for your friend and you are a good friend to help.

hlthe2b

(102,577 posts)
8. I might point out that cremation was never a consideration where I grew up, BUT....I think it is
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 06:02 PM
Jun 2012

something to consider. I think a lot of people fear there will be no memorial to visit--you can certainly add a plaque/headstone to a family gravesite, if that is important or even inter the ashes-- or even sprinkle them over the grave of family members buried.

traditionally the area of the country I came from always buried and held funerals with open caskets. I have to say that caused me difficulty as a young child--but when my own parents passed, I felt obligated to honor the wishes of my father's living mother, my aging grandmother, so I did so.

Cremation, though has got to be increasing in popularity for obvious reasons.

Journeyman

(15,047 posts)
12. I gave my Mother's ashes to the sea, so every time I pass by the shore, I'm near her. . .
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 06:13 PM
Jun 2012

what better, more magnificent memorial can there be?


The sea refuses no river
And this river is homeward flowing. . .

The sea refuses no river
And the river is where I am. . .

The river is where I am.

KBlagburn

(567 posts)
5. Trying to help......
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 05:56 PM
Jun 2012

Ordering online is a legitimate option. They offer the same product without the huge markup. Most states require the funeral home to accept it, check your state laws. Also if they have a visitation, they could have it just prior to the funeral to save money or to save even more they could have a graveside service, which more and more are doing. Ensure they know that the funeral home is required to give them an itemized list of expenses, most will bundle the cost so you dont know what youre paying for.
You can also check to see if the funeral home might have a casket that may have a scratch or dent that you normally couldnt see. They might discount it. When my mother died, we got a casket that had a small scratch on the top, but that you couldnt see when the lid was open or the flowers were on it. They gave us a big discount on it. You could also check other funeral homes in the area for caskets that could be discounted and they would transfer it to your funeral home.

vard28

(1,111 posts)
10. Thanks
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 06:08 PM
Jun 2012

We see that even Costco sells them online. Her mom hasn't passed yet, but it will be any day now, so we've got a little bit of time to shop around.

We'll see about what you did and ask if there is something with slight damage.

I appreciate your help.

cindyperry2010

(846 posts)
7. I had to do this twice and it is no fun
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 06:00 PM
Jun 2012

worrying about the bucks but having been through it i will opt for cremation as a lesser expense and tell them not to use a casket for viewing because the person paying for it would have to buy the casket. just (not trying to be crass sorry) lay the person on the table for viewing if there is one and then cremate them.

hlthe2b

(102,577 posts)
9. Some state's morturary laws won't allow that & a very cheap temporary casket may be required
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 06:05 PM
Jun 2012

even for those that will be cremated. Sad that during a difficult time like that, the family members have tor research all that.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
14. Ok ... there is something more important that the casket.
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 06:21 PM
Jun 2012

Its the cement vault.

No matter what coffin you buy, it will be CRUSHED if its not in a cement vault. Even the metal coffins.

At a minimum, you need a cement vault, with a basic seal (usually a form of putty), into which they place the coffin. If you don't have that cement vault, the coffin will CRUSH under the weight of the dirt that fills the grave.

Some Cemeteries require the vault and some don't ... I think the specifics vary by state ... but regardless, you need a good cement vault. The coffin is more or less irrelevant, except for the brief period of the viewing and funeral ... after that, its buried in the ground and no one remembers it.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
19. Short answer ... Because the body inside also gets crushed.
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 06:40 PM
Jun 2012

The weight of the dirt that fills a grave will flatten a coffin, and the body within.

And so, the family should know this and decide if they are ok with that. Most families have no idea about this ... the might spend a few thousand on a nice wooden coffin, which looks nice at the wake, but then that coffin, and its contents get crushed when the grave is filled in.

I worked in a Cemetery to help pay for college. If a coffin goes into that hole with no cement vault, you can hear it crush as the dirt is poured in. And I also participated in a number of exhumations where the coffin was not in a cement vault. Its not pretty.

Either get the cement vault, or go the cremation route.

KBlagburn

(567 posts)
20. A wooden vault is also a possiblitiy.....
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 06:43 PM
Jun 2012

Some places do offer wooden vaults very cheaply. You just have to ask. Also check the cemetery requirements. My sisters mother in law had a wooden vault.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
21. I hate to say this ... but if it was a basic "pine box", it also got crushed.
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 06:49 PM
Jun 2012

Most of the wooden "vaults" are made of either particle board, or a soft pine. They are usually no thicker than 3/4 of an inch, if that, and they crush just as easily ... they also degrade over time.

Again, I hate to say this ... but those are usually a waste of money. The wood box crushes, and so does the casket.

doc03

(35,459 posts)
15. I just paid for my mothers funeral, it ran
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 06:27 PM
Jun 2012

almost $10500 and that was with an inexpensive casket and vault. She didn't believe in cremation but myself I am going for direct creation, it costs $2400 to be burnt up in a $100 cardboard box or $2900 if you want burnt up in a $600 wooden box. I don't care if the box is cardboard, wooden or they use a garbage bag (it's being burnt up anyway)! The funeral industry is about as big a rip-off as our health care system.

cindyperry2010

(846 posts)
18. my mothers was around 5400 and
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 06:39 PM
Jun 2012

my dad had good insurance and a bronze casket and was 20000 but i know it was expensive but i honored their wishes i think if you can that is the thing to do honor their wishes

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
22. My grandmother's will explicitly instructed that she be cremated at the lowest possible cost
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 06:51 PM
Jun 2012

My aunt did a lot of calling around, and ended up having it done in a very rough part of Phoenix, AZ.

blaze

(6,397 posts)
26. Wow... that sounds high to me
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 08:09 PM
Jun 2012

My Dad was cremated (in Tucson) and the cost was either $800 or $900. Mom scattered his ashes in her back garden and she likes to go back there and visit.

jannyk

(4,810 posts)
23. There's these cardboard ones - very cheap
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 06:54 PM
Jun 2012

Last edited Fri Jun 29, 2012, 07:30 PM - Edit history (1)

http://www.eeternity.com/

Americans have very limited, sober choices I'm afraid.

Me, I've decided I'm having this one from England. It's cardboard too - they have such a fabulous selection abroad


http://www.coffincompany.co.uk/

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
25. The 'Very cheap coffin' of which I speak is cardboard...
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 08:03 PM
Jun 2012

Display in a fancy coffin, be buried in cardboard...sound like the best way to go...if you already own a burial plot, or be cremated in the cardboard coffin..MY first choice.

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
24. I have heard that some funeral homes will 'rent' a fancy coffin for display, but bury
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 07:59 PM
Jun 2012

the deceased in a very cheap coffin...it is worth looking into, it could be way cheaper than $2,000?

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
29. Theives..all of them...they play on greif..
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 09:19 PM
Jun 2012

All horror movies should include those people who suck the lifeblood out of the survivors of the dead!

 

whistler162

(11,155 posts)
27. 5 years ago it cost under $3500
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 08:15 PM
Jun 2012

to cremate and bury my father.

No viewing so no embalming and a inexpensive urn, turned out their was a beautiful dark blue urn that wasn't expensive so we where able to bury his ashes in some of the color of the Swedish flag which he would have liked. Of course it also helped that he was friends with the funeral director so that helped a little.

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