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cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 07:07 PM Jun 2012

Cruel female objectification in the check-out line

Last edited Fri Jun 29, 2012, 09:41 PM - Edit history (1)

I object strenuously to the promotion of a lanky 14 year-old boy with breast implants as the only "correct" female body type. I object to it in Maxim. I object to it in Cosmo. But if people want to say, "This is beautiful," then that's their business whether I agree or not.

Where I draw the line, however, is the jubilant derision of those who fail to meet that ideal and, sad to say, that derision is generally offered up as entertainment for women.

Supermarket tabloids and some women's magazines feature round-ups of who is fat. "10 worst beach bodies!" exclaims the cover. There are arrows and close-ups to the offending fat. Horror is expressed that some actress had the nerve to step outdoors in such a condition. Needless to say, none of these women singled out for censure are morbidly obese. They typically have a little bit of a belly and enough flesh on their butt and thighs to cause some line, crease, dimple or bulge... some deviation from featurelessness.

Over the years I have spent a lot of time with cable news on in the background. Most viewers of daytime news are women and there is a certain kind of daytime "style" story that comes up occasionally, usually prefaced with, "The internet is abuzz about..."

It seems that some celebrity has had an unflattering picture taken.

A few years back there was a beach picture of Jennifer Love Hewitt with a big butt. It was, indeed, impressive. I found, as the story rolled around each hour, that I was liking the picture more and more. But they kept telling me it was the worst thing in recorded history.

Maybe so... but it was also rather sexy. The same body in tights, rather than a bikini that appears to have been made from discarded inner tubes, would break a few male necks as we swiveled to follow it down the street.

Do I need to seek counseling because my first impulse was not to stone this woman?



"My home-boys try to warn me..."

Yes, this is above Ms. Hewitt's usual weight as an actress and beauty-product spokes-model, but you don't have to be a deviant to find some appeal in the picture. It became a big media rhubarb, leading to this People story:



Anyway, today I find myself once again cast as a pervert outside all human norms, thanks to FindLaw, of all things. FindLaw inexplicably has a link to a DailyMail (UK tabloid) expose of Jersey Shore's J-Woww.

That's not a good look: Jersey Shore's JWoww steps out in very
unflattering see-through leggings to walk her dog

http://legalnews.findlaw.com/article/067f87S3w29c4?q=Jersey+Shore+(TV+series)


Bear in mind, this is how she dared dress to walk her dog. Not to speak to the UN... to walk her dog.

Now I ask, in all seriousness, how many heterosexual men glancing at this picture will have, as their initial reaction, "My god... how tragic! I must tear out my eyes."




Oops. Sorry wrong picture... here's the one I was looking for...



Oh, the humanity!

Seriously... WTF? This is J-Woww, a woman whose entire celebrity persona is as sexy over-ripe shore-trash. She is not the next Audrey Hepburn, and never has been.

I find J-Woww's body quite distasteful, but not from this angle. She has absurd breast implants... the kind one winces and turns away from. Really vulgar, deforming, grotesque instances of surgical mutilation.

But nobody complains about her front, which is actually inhuman. Bit I am informed that her backside (which seems pretty cute to me) is in egregiously poor taste to show-off, and one of the signs of the apocalypse.

"Becky, look at her butt. Gross. It's so... feminine."
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Cruel female objectification in the check-out line (Original Post) cthulu2016 Jun 2012 OP
I disagree - Jennifer's butt is fine - it's her hedgehog Jun 2012 #1
Yes, it was not a flattering cut cthulu2016 Jun 2012 #3
Agree. NutmegYankee Jun 2012 #9
There's a word for that kind of breast implants arcane1 Jun 2012 #2
That is valid. Not every thin person is cthulu2016 Jun 2012 #5
This person could stand to lose a few pounds? Fridays Child Jun 2012 #4
One thing that you would never learn from the tabloids is that different ethnic hedgehog Jun 2012 #6
That's fair. cthulu2016 Jun 2012 #7
Shit, she is hot.... WCGreen Jun 2012 #8
My daughter, a recovered anorexic, has this photo posted on her Facebook page: grntuscarora Jun 2012 #10
That's great! n/t Gormy Cuss Jun 2012 #15
I call those lanky 14 year-old boy with breast implants, "Walking Tinker Toys". RC Jun 2012 #11
Any beauty can have a bad photo. We ALL can look good or bad in a photo, depending. Yes... Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #12
You have cosmetic and fashion industries whose profit depends on making women despise themselves... malthaussen Jun 2012 #13
Photoshop has been very useful for exposing the fallacy of "the perfect body" hedgehog Jun 2012 #19
They know what average is and they want the average woman to feel dissatisfied and buy products treestar Jun 2012 #14
There's another reason I love the art of belly dance: kentauros Jun 2012 #16
If that's "fat," then we're all in trouble. Dash87 Jun 2012 #17
Wait, that photo is supposed to be UN-flattering? TheWraith Jun 2012 #18
"how many heterosexual men glancing at this picture" 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #20
It's not 'what' is in the bikini Shankapotomus Jun 2012 #21
i'd hit it. KG Jun 2012 #22
The anorexic model look is freakish. UnrepentantLiberal Jun 2012 #23
I'd say "holy shit those ladies are hot" except I'd hate to sound sexist... Zalatix Jun 2012 #24

NutmegYankee

(16,207 posts)
9. Agree.
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 07:32 PM
Jun 2012

The bikini bottom could have been cut better to wrap more around her butt, and it would have been a great look. There is nothing wrong with her body.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
2. There's a word for that kind of breast implants
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 07:13 PM
Jun 2012

"Absurditties"

Sorry, someone had to say it

In seriousness, I agree with this post 100%. I would also add the flip-side to this phenomenon: the demonizing of naturally-thin women as not "real".

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
5. That is valid. Not every thin person is
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 07:17 PM
Jun 2012

anorexic or mindless slave to the patriarchy.

And I have heard many a female conversational reference to, "those skinny bitches," which hardly seems fair.

Fridays Child

(23,998 posts)
4. This person could stand to lose a few pounds?
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 07:15 PM
Jun 2012

Really? I find absolutely nothing wrong with, or overweight about, her body. She looks to be completely within a healthy weight range, to me.

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
6. One thing that you would never learn from the tabloids is that different ethnic
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 07:20 PM
Jun 2012

groups have different body shapes; for example, as my dear late mother often stated:

Irish lasses, they have no asses!

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
7. That's fair.
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 07:21 PM
Jun 2012

There is nothing unhealthy about that picture. I meant that she was heavy for Jennifer Love Hewitt.

I took your point and edited the OP accordingly.

WCGreen

(45,558 posts)
8. Shit, she is hot....
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 07:28 PM
Jun 2012

I watch that new Bicardi Rum commercial with those pencil thin models cavorting around, pretending that this was the style. But all you have to do is take one look at Jayne Mansfield, or Ms. Monroe or any other actress from the pre 60's era and you see curves babt curves....

grntuscarora

(1,249 posts)
10. My daughter, a recovered anorexic, has this photo posted on her Facebook page:
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 08:40 PM
Jun 2012

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She found it on www.somedaymelissa.com, a site raising awareness about eating disorders.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
11. I call those lanky 14 year-old boy with breast implants, "Walking Tinker Toys".
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 09:09 PM
Jun 2012

They could stand to gain a few pounds. Most of them are actually unhealthy and under weight. Really.

I would have posted sooner, but the scroll wheel on my mouse kept getting stuck. 3 times anyway. Or was it 6? I lost count.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
12. Any beauty can have a bad photo. We ALL can look good or bad in a photo, depending. Yes...
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 09:24 PM
Jun 2012

it's sickening all this tearing of people, particularly women, apart because a body part is a little too much this or a little too little of something else.

Men don't escape this, either. It's just not as often. Who hasn't seen the David Hasselhoff or Val Kilmer or Bruce Jenner pics?








malthaussen

(17,241 posts)
13. You have cosmetic and fashion industries whose profit depends on making women despise themselves...
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 09:44 PM
Jun 2012

... what do you expect?

I have my own idiosyncratic aesthetic, but I would never dream of imposing it on anyone else. But instead of the sane, simple adage that "beauty is in the eye of the beholder," we have fallen to "beauty is what WE tell you it is."

-- Mal

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
19. Photoshop has been very useful for exposing the fallacy of "the perfect body"
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 11:49 AM
Jun 2012

For example, if someone photoshopped the photo of that behind in accord with supposed standards, it would look so strange that they'd have to photoshop the rest of the body to match. And once you're down to a skeleton.....


I know some naturally thin people and they look good. I know some naturally heavy people, and they look good. It's all about health and fitness!

treestar

(82,383 posts)
14. They know what average is and they want the average woman to feel dissatisfied and buy products
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 09:53 PM
Jun 2012

to "fix" all of the problems.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
16. There's another reason I love the art of belly dance:
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 10:29 PM
Jun 2012

they have figures. If Ms. Hewitt were a belly dancer, no one would question her small amount of fat.



Dash87

(3,220 posts)
17. If that's "fat," then we're all in trouble.
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 11:05 PM
Jun 2012

But if she looked like she was a second from starving to death, those magazines would say how great she looked.

TheWraith

(24,331 posts)
18. Wait, that photo is supposed to be UN-flattering?
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 11:11 PM
Jun 2012

Sorry, I think I tranced out and failed to actually read your post.

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
20. "how many heterosexual men glancing at this picture"
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 12:14 PM
Jun 2012

Very few. But straight men are not the target.

Those magazines target unhappy women who want to alternately hate themselves and hate other women. (Half the articles are "hate yourself" the other half are "hate this woman" with the occasional useless sex tips thrown in).

Shankapotomus

(4,840 posts)
21. It's not 'what' is in the bikini
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 12:19 PM
Jun 2012

it is 'who' is in the bikini. If it's someone you love, respect and/or admire, how they look won't matter because they have meaning for you.

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