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Percentage of Americans who will face fine for not having health insurance (Original Post) Marzupialis Jun 2012 OP
Oh but let's them make a MASSIVE deal about it and grind the country to a halt flamingdem Jun 2012 #1
I would argue that perspective is more important. TheWraith Jun 2012 #2
Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #7
And more than 40,000 die every year from lack of medical care Wounded Bear Jul 2012 #8
You response is off topic PatSeg Jul 2012 #9
Also his numbers are wrong by about a factor of three or four. TheWraith Jul 2012 #10
Guess he underestimated PatSeg Jul 2012 #11
Same as in MA graywarrior Jun 2012 #3
and how many of those "2%" will be zbdent Jun 2012 #4
They end up costing the paying insured an extra $1,000 a year. julian09 Jun 2012 #5
Be interested in seeing how you came up with that. nm rhett o rick Jun 2012 #6

flamingdem

(39,342 posts)
1. Oh but let's them make a MASSIVE deal about it and grind the country to a halt
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 11:08 PM
Jun 2012

What we need in this country is an emphasis on FACTS

TheWraith

(24,331 posts)
2. I would argue that perspective is more important.
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 11:16 PM
Jun 2012

Facts can be twisted to suit an agenda. Perspective on the other hand employs both facts and UNDERSTANDING of facts.

Case in point: if 40,000 people a year were being killed in this country by terrorism, there would be armed military patrols on every city block and people would be scared shitless to go out of their houses.

40,000 people a year killed by car accidents, though? No big deal. Nobody is afraid to go back on the highway.

Response to TheWraith (Reply #2)

Wounded Bear

(58,799 posts)
8. And more than 40,000 die every year from lack of medical care
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 08:13 AM
Jul 2012

Maybe this law will help move that number in the right direction.

Enjoy your stay.

PatSeg

(47,780 posts)
9. You response is off topic
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 08:21 AM
Jul 2012

"Stop and Frisk" laws have nothing to do with health care and calling the Attorney General a racist is over-the-top.

I would assume you are not an African American male between 15 and 45 or you would have a different perspective on "unreasonable search and seizures".

TheWraith

(24,331 posts)
10. Also his numbers are wrong by about a factor of three or four.
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 01:24 PM
Jul 2012

The actual murder rate is barely over a third of what he claimed, and that's counting every single murder in the US.

PatSeg

(47,780 posts)
11. Guess he underestimated
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 07:31 PM
Jul 2012

the knowledge and intelligence of posters at Democratic Underground.

Its funny how the last few years, people just make up facts and statistics without batting an eye and other people feel obligated to repeat those unfacts without verifying them. I can't count the times I've gone to Snopes because my sister posted something she got in an email or on Facebook. After all these years, she still doesn't check with Snopes first.

zbdent

(35,392 posts)
4. and how many of those "2%" will be
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 11:21 PM
Jun 2012

those who screamed about the "government forcing someone to buy something" ... in other words, essentially, a CONSERVATIVE CONCEPT ... making sure that someone doesn't skate by and get health insurance right before they go to the doctor to complain about the fact that they're deathly ill ... like buying house/fire insurance when a fire breaks out and your house is burning.

(Remember the red-staters who were screaming about the fire dept in KY, IIRC, who were legally forbidden from putting out the fire because the person didn't pay his "tax"?)

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