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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsEMT Kevin O'Rourke: "45%" of Zimmerman's head covered in blood, nose broken
EMT Kevin O'Rourke testified during Zimmerman's bond hearing this morning that "45 percent" of Zimmerman's head had blood on it and that the lacerations on Zimmerman's head "would probably need stitches."
O'Rourke also testified that Zimmerman's nose was broken and urged him to see a doctor within 24 hours.
The EMT examined Zimmerman after having checked on Martin, who had died after being shot by Zimmerman.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmermans-head-covered-blood-emt-testified/story?id=16672554
uponit7771
(90,378 posts)...whole thing would've been moot by now
tularetom
(23,664 posts)Just more of the constantly evolving Zimmerman alibi.
DearAbby
(12,461 posts)Even if that is true, Trayvon had the right to stand his ground...with the weapons he had.
Zimmerman still has to convincingly tell us why he left the safety of his vehicle, to place himself close enough to a can of Iced tea, and a bag of skittles.
I really don't see how Zimmerman's condition is relevant to the case. Since both should have equal protection under the law. This includes Martin's right to defend his life, when threatened.
auburngrad82
(5,029 posts)Doesn't change the fact that Zimmerman was the instigator and as such can't cry stand your ground.
mattclearing
(10,091 posts)Anyone who has heard the 911 call he placed can tell he was looking to get his ass beat. If he hadn't been armed it would have been a perfectly justified beatdown.
Junkdrawer
(27,993 posts)unless he was able to shower and change in the 30 minutes between the EMT and the station.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)no, I am not kidding... though the patient could honestly deny as long as all four extremities were moving and he was A&Ox3...
So EMT O'Rourke, did you obtain saith CYA document I always obtained in a far less litigious society?
pnwmom
(109,028 posts)This means nothing. He didn't have a concussion, or we'd have heard about it.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)being so much younger than Zimmerman, it looks like he was doing a good job of it. But Zimmerman, like so many of these people who are only tough when they are holding a weapon, was too scared to handle the situation so he took the cowardly way out and killed him.
I think Martin saw the gun, and in the video, Zimmerman kind of alludes to that, and was fighting for his life assuming this was an armed criminal. Sadly he lost that battle.
Raine
(30,548 posts)Zimmerman.
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)Who took the picture and who broke his nose?
turtlerescue1
(1,013 posts)decided to leave his vehicle. Surely I am not the only DUer who has knowledge of citizen patrols/neighborhood watch!
Zimmerman KNEW a squad had been dispatched. "911" told him "We don't need you to do that."
Obviously the first rule is not to "patrol" alone. But the bigger rules are you do not engage nor confront. You observe, you get a description. You stay in your vehicle until a uniformed officer arrives. Zimmerman set the scene for what took place, he made a choice, a decision.
He knew he didn't have a badge nor authority. Everything else that took place was due to a choice to be above the parameters of citizen patrol. He wouldn't have had stitches nor head wound had he behaved as he KNOWS he was supposed to. Looks like he felt he was above the law. And a young man wouldn't be dead!
MO_Dem
(2,358 posts)Was it Zimmerman's blood, or was it Trayvon's blood? I doubt that there's any proof.
shraby
(21,946 posts)wasn't needed? Just needed one ambulance to transport Martin.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)His victim had every right to stand his ground and defend himself.
I hope it hurt, Zimmy.
madokie
(51,076 posts)before this is all said and done.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)in which case, he is free and clear. The injuries he described should have led to a transport in full C-SPINE precs to the hospital... which Zimmy could refuse, since he was moving all four extremities and was fully oriented, after signing the required cover your ass paperwork.
Pretty standard actually, if he obtained that signature... if not, well he could be in trouble with a medical director at the very least.
JI7
(89,290 posts)Amerigo Vespucci
(30,885 posts)Trying to stack evidence proving that he "feared for his life" and had no choice other than to shoot Trayvon.
JI7
(89,290 posts)someone else's home suing the owner of that home for causing injury .
how can one stand their ground when they go after someone out in the streets, follows them in a vehicle and then runs after them. i don't believe all these injuries but even if it were true it was Trayvon who was standing his ground. it was travon who has a reasonable fear for his life .
Amerigo Vespucci
(30,885 posts)...someone backing up in a parking lot barely taps the car behind them and the next day that person is sitting in court in a neck brace.
Same thing with Zimmerman. He shot that kid, he screwed up BIG TIME, he KNEW it, and immediately everyone in his orbit started spouting legalese and citing "Stand Your Ground." I attribute much of that to his father. I think it's very reasonable to assume that he's orchestrated much of what's happened since the shooting, and continues to do so.
No matter how much drama the Zimmerman family wants to bring to this, one thing remains true. Zimmerman didn't have to get out of his car, Zimmerman wasn't supposed to be carrying a gun in his self-appointed neighborhood watch captain role, Zimmerman was told that he "didn't need to" pursue Trayvon...there is so much evidence pointing to Zimmerman as instigator, plus the unarmed Trayvon was standing his ground on the way back to his father's house.
This all sounds great on paper. Zimmerman could still walk. I don't think most of us...myself included...have a clue as to the depth of corruption in the Sanford legal system. The contradictions are all cataloged on DU. The truth may not matter. Zimmerman's version of the truth may set him free. We'll have to wait and see.
JI7
(89,290 posts)if Trayvon was not a black male. and especially if the roles were switched with the dead kid being a white kid and the shooter being black this would not even be an issue.
Amerigo Vespucci
(30,885 posts)This case features a guy who, for all intents and purposes, is a racist. One need look no further than his old MySpace account.
He's on some heavy meds, he has a history of violence...
...and so far, NO ONE has been able to PROVE that Trayvon was doing anything OTHER THAN walking home with his Skittles and ice tea before he was CONFRONTED by Zimmerman.
But from the beginning, Zimmerman's camp has done its best to present Trayvon as the scary hoodie-wearing black guy who spoke in Jimmy Cagney sentences like "You're gonna DIE tonight."
This crap probably wouldn't sell in California. But in Sanford Florida, a scary black guy in a hoodie is scary indeed. Ain't that America, for you and me?