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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsEnough With the Terrorism Porn
I am very sorry for the people in Manchester who lost their lives and are critically injured. I am sorry for everyone who has died or had been hurt in a terror attack.
Terrorism is a sad thing that is all too common these days everywhere.
Resentful and angry people carrying out their problems by killing.
But, I am sick of the Terrorism Porn.
When there is an attack in Europe these days, the news goes on a 24 to 48 hour terrorism orgy.
All Terrorism all the time.
We see the same footage hundreds of times.
If there is nothing new they fill the airwaves with the same material over and over again.
Nothing else is discussed and no other news is talked about.
All we get is deluged with Terrorism porn.
I, for one, am sick to death of it.
We do not need wall to wall coverage of nothing but,
Then we wonder why so many people are in fetal positions over terrorism and think there is a terrorist around every corner.
Jane Austin
(9,199 posts)Speculation and the same brief B-roll over and over.
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demmiblue
(36,920 posts)DrDan
(20,411 posts)Warpy
(111,467 posts)like the 1996 IRA truck bombing. There were no deaths because sufficient warning had been issued, but a major part of the city's retail and office infrastructure was either damaged or destroyed.
Terrorism might have changed religion but the UK is used to it enough that people will just carry on with their lives.
The real panic will happen among Trumpers in flyover country in the US.
"Seen worse"
"No deaths"
Maybe if a Starbucks and a few offices are worth more to you than the least among us.
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)discussion.
Warpy
(111,467 posts)and it took them many years to recover.
It's just an example of why the UK will take this in stride. They are used to nutcases with imagined grievances against civilians.
But please enjoy your righteous indignation. Wouldn't spoil it for the world.
linuxman
(2,337 posts)catbyte
(34,546 posts)I got your point, Warpy; I don't know why others didn't.
Warpy
(111,467 posts)and given all the consideration it deserves.
Thank you, I'm glad somebody got the point.
Heartstrings
(7,349 posts)not sure why the overindulgement of the media coverage is so difficult to understand. Not like you didn't show empathy for the victims, etc. in the beginning of your op.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)whathehell
(29,111 posts)Bad analogies.
lovemydogs
(575 posts)Warpy
(111,467 posts)and they still did in depth stories to fill air time instead of repeating the same thing over and over again for 24 hours or until another story popped up.
uppityperson
(115,681 posts)Shrug off any pain, grief, sorrow about those killed, hurt, instead just "carry on with their lives"?
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)uppityperson
(115,681 posts)May said: This was among the worst terrorist incidents we have ever experienced in the UK and although it is not the first time Manchester has suffered in this way, it is the worst attack the city has experienced and the worst ever to hit the north of England.
furtheradu
(1,865 posts)I enCourage You & like-Minded others to let msm know Your (& mine) thoughts. Just cuz they seem to only be capable of holding 1 thought at a time, doesn't mean WE are so afflicted.
whathehell
(29,111 posts)at least on MSNBC.
brooklynite
(95,012 posts)This is news. They'll get back to the Trump scandals tomorrow.
shraby
(21,946 posts)If they have something new, then they can add. But until then, it's not good to run the same scenes over and over and over and over ad infinitum.
brooklynite
(95,012 posts)I don't recall any complaints when it's a story people like.
What would you like 24-hour news channels to fill their time with?
notdarkyet
(2,226 posts)About his speeches and comments. The way he looks and talks make me sick. If I see his face I turn off the tv.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)grossproffit
(5,591 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)No one is saying to "ignore" anything.
If this was a drunk hitting a school bus, it would not get full-on coverage to the exclusion of all else.
Tell me why that is? It's got nothing to do with the death of children.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)uppityperson
(115,681 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)too much coverage of 9/11, well, I'm sorry, but I can't take your opinion seriously.
It was ONLY the most important event in our and arguably the Middle East's history this century.
lovemydogs
(575 posts)grossproffit
(5,591 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)lovemydogs
(575 posts)It was news but, not wall to wall all day long.
This is why so many muslim americans are subjects of hate crimes, why Trump wants a ban, ect.
It's treated way different from other terror attacks and it causes the unceasing hate of muslims.
It's also just plain boring to hear the same crap over and over and over with nothing new - nothing to add
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)Response to lovemydogs (Reply #16)
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uppityperson
(115,681 posts)It. Just. Happened.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)brooklynite
(95,012 posts)...for a panel discussion on Bush's tax policies.
demmiblue
(36,920 posts)What the fuck is wrong with the people who are agreeing with the OP and reccing this thread?
Sick *****
Codeine
(25,586 posts)political purity statement grants them moral superiority, rather than making them look like dicks.
They're wrong.
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Codeine
(25,586 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,075 posts)TV is not a health making device.
24/7 coverage when there is essentially little news at a slow rate is not healthy.
THAT'S a priority.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)I get my news online. Seems like the OP could do the same thing and avoid falling prey to "boredom" and then making an ass of themself on DU.
I spent the last few hours catching up on Handmaid's Tale and sorting some Magic: the Gathering cards rather than railing online against the supposed horror and boredom of breaking news coverage.
RhodeIslandOne
(5,042 posts)Or just feel you need to lead with that before you get to the point where you admit you don't care?
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uppityperson
(115,681 posts)cornball 24
(1,482 posts)this horrific attack if they knew that the word "porn" was used in describing the reporting of this atrocity.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)on international television for hours?
You think that anyone wants that?
You want the death of your child to be a media spectacle? So that advertisers can make money?
cornball 24
(1,482 posts)uppityperson
(115,681 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)So anyone who doesn't amount to shit can command the airwaves for days.
It's what they want.
uppityperson
(115,681 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,075 posts)Porn of any kind is supported by the consumers of it. Therefore, don't consume it and encourage your friends and neighbors to not indulge themselves. Especially when it makes them unhealthy (stress, poor decision-making (bad choices voting), etc.).
DeminPennswoods
(15,299 posts)When there's new news, break in and report, but otherwise, back to regular scheduled programming.
I suppose a positive is that I don't have hear about Trump's first Euro/ME visit.
milestogo
(16,829 posts)Sickening.
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melman
(7,681 posts)Leith
(7,817 posts)or have an off switch.
Think of it this way: news like this is meant to be watched a few minutes at a time with a couple hours between tuning in. Treat it like that. Go watch HGTV, Spike, TVLand, or whatever you like. Go back to a news channel during commercials to see if there has been any new developments.
Just quit with the First World Problem of having too much news on the biggest event of the day.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Your post is foolish!
Bleacher Creature
(11,258 posts)And I refuse to do that any more than I'm willing to normalize Trump and all his misdeeds.
I have many, many issues with the 24-hour news cycle, but this isn't the place to wage that fight.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Bleacher Creature
(11,258 posts)And I'm not asking rhetorically - I really don't get it.
If it's about the wall to wall coverage, that's more of a criticism of the way news is covered these days, i.e., the lead story gets the most air time.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)It is what people who do this sort of thing want
Wounded Bear
(58,793 posts)Most of the shit they put out in the first few hours ends up being bullshit anyway.
I agree, and I feel for those directly affected, but I can't watch 12 hours of that shit. Too depressing.
SCVDem
(5,103 posts)Without the shit of course.
That's why I watched the first loop and will check back every few for updates.
Let's give things a chance to progress and let the facts come out.
Isn't speculation just 'fake news?'
Wounded Bear
(58,793 posts)aikoaiko
(34,186 posts)This topic should only get 20 minutes. 30 minutes tops.
JenniferJuniper
(4,516 posts)and keep running the same clips over and over with on-call pundits who know nothing about the event blathering endlessly.
It IS a terrorism orgy. They fucking love it and it's sick.
Report what you know about the story. Keep us updated as relevant information comes in. But stop the endless, breathless speculating and pontificating.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Ugh.
lovemydogs
(575 posts)It stirs up people into their 'a terrorist around every corner' paranoia. Instead of common sense they get people whipped up.
It causes the hate mongers to attack innocents as revenge.
It keeps the whole terror media industry going and plays into people like Pam Geller who uses it to whip up hate
They only do this when a muslim is involved. If it was some crank who did it they would pull away after an hour.
The media become uninterested if it is not 'muslim terror'
lovemydogs
(575 posts)a muslim attack.
They go nuts when something happens and they think its some muslim terrorist thing. Once it turns out it is not, the media looses interest.
I find it wrong and sick that for 15 years the media has promoted this Business of the evil muslim.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Keep rationalizing.
I actually feel sorry for you.
And again, ugh.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)AREN'T the VICTIMS here!
NRaleighLiberal
(60,038 posts)lovemydogs
(575 posts)And its hurtful.
People get hurt after the media has its terrorism orgy because they only do this with one group
NRaleighLiberal
(60,038 posts)tolerance of lots of points of view on how people cope.
My solution - I've not watched TV in 10 years. I just dab into the news on the internet. But that's my approach - whatever works for everyone - not for me to say.
I do understand your point. It isn't only terrorism events or politics - it is also reality shows, ads, etc.
Make mine movies!
cilla4progress
(24,802 posts)Part of what's so wrong with our media...
lovemydogs
(575 posts)They do not do wall to wall droning when it's a white nationalist. Or some other group.
I find it awful that they do this only with one group. And you see the fall out days afterwards when innocent muslim americans are assaulted here in this country because the media has to sensationalize these things only when it involves muslims
RhodeIslandOne
(5,042 posts)I recall Oklahoma City getting a lot of coverage on CNN back in the day.
Long time between big scores from white nationalists though.
melman
(7,681 posts)Where are you getting that?
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Squinch
(51,090 posts)was with the Oklahoma bombing.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)This post of yours was from last night and as of this morning, they still haven't announced the killer's name. Seems a bit premature to be so sure it's a Muslim, doesn't it?
yuiyoshida
(41,872 posts)The one thing I really hate are people who complain about being BORED. They need to take a break and go for a walk or something. WE are not PAID to entertain you. IF you are bored take it elsewhere instead of bitching about it. No one wants to hear your bitch about being bored. That's your problem, not ours.
Wishing we still had UNREC.
lovemydogs
(575 posts)They say the same things in the same way time after time.
It is boring to the whole 'here we go again'. Nonstop Islamic terror is out to kill everyone!
It is awful and it is boring that for 15 years they have been doing the same thing
yuiyoshida
(41,872 posts)Do something else. No one here is paid to entertain you. If you hate it than go play video games. ITS YOUR PROBLEM, Don't lay it our feet, if you want to go out and find your own news story than post it, otherwise, no one here wants to hear you complain.
Fuck, we have a President with a Low attention span and all he does is say crap so he can be entertained because he is bored.
melman
(7,681 posts)Yet here you are repeatedly calling this a 'muslim attack' when that has not been confirmed anywhere.
Odd.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Bernardine; Pan Am 103; Ft. Hood; .....
Yes, I can see how ennui could set in when hearing news of yet another attack.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)They still haven't IDd the killer. It seems the only one who wants to shut up the news because YOU think it was done by Muslims (who according to you are the REAL victims) is YOU. I wonder why YOU made that assumption.
lovemydogs
(575 posts)Outside of the Dylan Roof thing, the media cuts coverage when it turns out that the person involved in some incident is not a muslim terrorist.
They use it and play on it and it keeps the whole fear and hate of middle eastern people going.
The refugees were widely rejected because so many people kept thinking that they were mostly terrorists because they were muslim.
The media uses it as porn for them and promotes alot of hate and keeping that going on.
There needs to be much more common sense coverage
lovemydogs
(575 posts)southerncrone
(5,506 posts)It works so well for them, they always default to it in times of trouble.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)G_j
(40,372 posts)but they pretty much suck at reporting anything.
shadowmayor
(1,325 posts)When the bombs go off in Baghdad, or any other parts of the Middle East or Afghanistan, not such a big deal, especially when the bombs come from the US. For one thing, western media vacated those war zones years ago. What Manchester is dealing with tonight is what Iraqis have been dealing with for over a decade. It's "old" news and empathy fatigue set in long ago. If it bleeds it leads really depends on who's doing the bleeding and where they live.
melman
(7,681 posts)People instantly go into 'not a big deal' mode because this happened in England.
shadowmayor
(1,325 posts)It feels a little too close to "home".
Not Ruth
(3,613 posts)I would not be surprised at a national day of morning.
rzemanfl
(29,585 posts)Beartracks
(12,839 posts)Coverage. Visibility. Immortality.
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jodymarie aimee
(3,975 posts)Fuckface is speaking now and it is obscene.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)morning's worth of news devoted to a terrorist attack in a major city.
Perhaps one might watch the Nickelodeon Channel instead?
HAB911
(8,957 posts)Food Porn = Cooking Network, Food Network, Recipe Network
Realtor Porn = HGTV, DIY, Beachfront bargain hunt, Property Brothers, etc
We are a porn obsessed nation
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)WORLD LEADERS are speaking out?
Surely you know that Obama would have been amongst them, we're he POTUS.
HAB911
(8,957 posts)Terrorism, Food, or Realtor?
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)regard the reporting of a major tragedy as "porn."
Try checking the word's etymology.
2. television shows, articles, photographs, etc., thought to cater to an excessive, irresistible desire for or interest in something: a magazine filled with enticing food porn; an addiction to real-estate porn.
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/porn?s=t
One great thing about the English language, it never sits still
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)I used the word "etymology" and not "definition."
V
HAB911
(8,957 posts)We need all the good teachers we can get these days!
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Ingenuous? Disingenuous? Plain silly? To think, expect, or hope that news channels would, in the first few hours, not make Manchester a top priority.
That one morning's worth of coverage would prompt someone to post about being "bored"; or that this coverage qualifies for the vernacular "porn"; or that gee, I sure wish I could hear about all the other news that I haven't heard of for oh, about 8 hours now....
is distressing.
Why don't they go for a walk or, hey, just turn to a non-news channel?!
HAB911
(8,957 posts)but just think you are getting a little too worked up over the OP and my post. (go for a walk or, hey, just turn to a non-news channel, get away from DU for awhile?!)
Squinch
(51,090 posts)I needed it to penetrate the shock and to come to terms with what happened.
That said, from a couple of days after to this day I need to turn away from any images of the time.
But in those hours after, there was an important integration and catharsis taking place, and the news helped with that.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)when it wasn't YOUR 10 year old daughter that got blown up - parents and kids are still trying to find eachother. I'm so very sorry that it inconveniences you so much. I swear, it's becoming more and more obvious that degenerate donnie's election hasn't only made right wingers nasty and mean.
As for you, turn off the tv and do something useful.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)This OP sickens me.
115 posts? Perhaps it'll be gone soon.
obnoxiousdrunk
(2,911 posts)How do you get 41 recs for this POS ? WTF ?
BeyondGeography
(39,395 posts)Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)Ignoring doesn't make it any less real.
I would rather there be too much coverage and people be exposed to the harsh reality that is out there than it be glossed over like it's no big deal.
Because while you may not agree this is a big deal. That we are seeing suicide bombers move more into Western nations from the Middle East represents a paradigm change in how these types are operating and shows an increased level of sophistication. These are all things that, even if they are like you and don't want to know about it, people should be aware of.
Ace Rothstein
(3,201 posts)Please consider deleting.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)Although many are calling out the OP for the crap it is. Poster should (at least) consider deleting it.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)I don't think I've ever felt this level of disgust at any one poster before.
The OP is tone deaf at best; I won't say what I really think about it.
Coventina
(27,224 posts)Ridiculous.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)whathehell
(29,111 posts)unexpected celebrity deaths do as well..Michael Jackson's death got a solid two weeks of TV coverage. I thought I'd go insane.
Not Ruth
(3,613 posts)This time is different.
mentalsolstice
(4,463 posts)And 45s arrival in Rome. So I guess that 24-48 hour orgy didn't pan out for you.
Not Ruth
(3,613 posts)Born in Manchester to Libyan parents. BBC Newsnight reported that when Abedi was 16 he fought against the Colonel Gaddafi regime with his father during the school holidays.
It was while at Manchester College that two people who knew Abedi have confirmed they made separate calls to an anti-terrorism hotline to warn the police about his extremist views.
One of the mosques attended by Abedi and his family in Didsbury, south Manchester, has said it has a "lot to learn" to deter young people from extremist ideologies.
Greater Manchester Police have made an appeal to the public for information about Abedi's movements since 18 May, when he returned to the UK from abroad.
The home secretary would not comment specifically on what the security service knew about Abedi, but insisted it was right for MI5 to review its processes because "the threat is always changing".
The Times is reporting that a "key" tool which gives law enforcement the power to stop Britons suspected of involvement in terrorist activity abroad at the UK border has only been used once since it was introduced in 2015.
Ms Rudd said it was not for her to demand that a certain number of Temporary Exclusion Orders be used, but to make sure the security service has the "tools they can use" to protect the public.
"We need to put our efforts into protecting young people," she told BBC News. "People in our communities who are being targeted by Daesh [the Islamic State terror group] and fed a false ideology."
She said the government had "never understated" the threat of a terror attack in the UK, adding: "We have to level with people."
Schedule 7 of the Terrorism Act 2000 gives the police the power to stop, search and hold individuals at ports, airports and international railway stations.
Initially individuals could be questioned for up to nine hours - although a change in the guidelines means it is now up to six hours. The police also have the power to inspect electronic devices such as phones and laptops.
The police also have the power to seize travel documents for up to 14 days if they believe someone is travelling in order to engage in terrorist activity.
Another option is a Temporary Exclusion Order (TEO), which can be used against British citizens suspected of involvement in terrorist activity abroad. They are designed to stop suspects from re-entering the UK unless they give themselves up at the border.
Police say their investigation is "making good progress" and has around 1,000 people working on it.
In total 16 people have been arrested - but a woman and a 16-year-old boy were later released without charge.
The UK threat level has been reduced from critical to severe and soldiers deployed to support the police will be gradually withdrawn from Monday night.