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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums***D Jr's meeting with Kremlin lawyer was primarily about Russian SANCTIONS, not orphans.***
DJT, Jr., and JARED, and MANAFORT, in my opinion, were really there to discuss Russian SANCTIONS with the Kremlin lawyer, Natalia Veselnitskaya.
Background: in retaliation for the passage of the 2012 Magnitsky Act, with its sanctions, Putin had cut off the adoption of Russian children to the US.
So Russian sanctions and Russian/US adoptions are directly tied. And the sanctions not Russian adoptions -- were the key interest of attorney Veselnitskaya.
Russian orphans are merely pawns. And a much more sympathetic cover story for DJT, Jr.
(We know DT doesn't have a genuine interest in the Russian adoption issue because he hasn't done a thing to promote this cause either before or since becoming President.)
From May 2016:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/putins-dirty-game-in-the-us-congress
The Daily Beast has seen an email sent to the Open Dialog Foundation, a Poland-based NGO, from a man named Anatoli Samochornov, who claimed to represent HRAGIF along with Natalia Veselnitskaya, identified in the email as a Russian lawyer who conducted an extensive investigation of the Magnitsky case.
SNIP
Veselnitskaya is not shy about her opinions of the Magnitsky Act, about Browder, or about journalism aimed at uncovering Russian corruption. Her Twitter feed and interviews on Russian state television reveal her to be a staunch adherent of the Kremlins position on all of the above.
SNIP
Browder believes that Veselnitskaya played an integral role in the Nekrasov documentary. The Russian press referred to her as one of its organizers and the person who provided input for this anti-Magnitsky film, he said. It is certainly consistent with their own anti-Magnitsky sentiments.
SNIP
They said they were lobbying on behalf of a Russian company called Prevezon and asked us to delay the Global Magnitsky Act or at least remove Magnitsky from the name, the staffer said. Mr. Dellums said it was a shame that this bill has made it so Russian orphans cannot be adopted by Americans.
madaboutharry
(40,248 posts)How stupid do they think we are?
These fakers and their lies get more ridiculous with each passing day.
ResistantAmerican17
(3,856 posts)..... that's how stupid they think we are
Cosmocat
(14,599 posts)"we" don't factor in to it.
They do this kind of shit because their 1/3 will gleefully grab hold of it as the justification for a rant along the lines of "liberal, far left, liberal, adopt kids, liberals, far left, socialism!"
AND, the "middle" 1/3 will hear it, hear the right wing 1/3 screaming about liberals and continue to just cover their ears and babble, "They are both the same ..."
"We" are just going along for the ride.
mucifer
(23,637 posts)that is "proof that single payer doesn't work" Pawns in their game.
Blue_Roses
(12,894 posts)I can't believe where we are at now, compared to this time last year, when the emails and DNC hacking was all the buzz. Good grief, I wonder just how deep this Russia crap goes.
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)freaking republicans just give the freaking russians the candy store. pathetic. Treasonous.
Laf.La.Dem.
(2,947 posts)Again - NOTHING to see here -
BigmanPigman
(51,680 posts)The shear amount of corruption everywhere is unbelievable. But it is OK since "there is no evidence of collusion".
SayItLoud
(1,703 posts)Given up counting the number of "oh I forgot this meeting" BS excuses for collusion. But for sure Mueller and team are not buying these public excuses or accepting the retro filings. (still should be treated as felonies IMO)
But in the end it will be the $$ that leads to their downfall and hopefully jail time for these money grubbers.
--money laundering
--bank and wire fraud (can't claim a property is worth a billion to borrow against it then value it at 90 Mill for taxes)
--Charities scams
Our job in the resistance will be to demand NO FINANCIAL settlements but jail time!