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Why the hell did Junior release the emails? (Original Post) Hamlette Jul 2017 OP
The NY Times already had the emails and they informed him before they released them. Kablooie Jul 2017 #1
do we know how the Times got them? Hamlette Jul 2017 #12
The Times didn't say but they told Jr they would release at 11:00 on Monday. Kablooie Jul 2017 #17
ah, I missed that, thanks for the info. n/t Hamlette Jul 2017 #20
Also by releasing them, he can't blame 'The Democrats' leftstreet Jul 2017 #2
I think Stephen Colbert said at 11:00 AM today (after Morning Joe). BigmanPigman Jul 2017 #3
He didn't ask his attorney first. no_hypocrisy Jul 2017 #4
Jr thinks he is the smartest person on earth and is untouchable, thats why. he's a first rate dick. sunonmars Jul 2017 #5
I don't believe that is the case. NYT contacted him some time ago about these emails, which it looks OnDoutside Jul 2017 #8
He's an idiot and Are_grits_groceries Jul 2017 #6
Magic Eight-Ball says... JHB Jul 2017 #7
The dope doesn't fall far from the idiot. Vinca Jul 2017 #9
Another distraction. Dulcinea Jul 2017 #10
Two possibilities: either, as was said upthread, he is dumber than a box of rocks OR he is taking Squinch Jul 2017 #11
Because he really believes that he has a sort of carte blanche... Orsino Jul 2017 #13
To gaslight & throw us off ecstatic Jul 2017 #14
I understand now that the Times was going to release them and probably asked him for comment... Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2017 #15
Ran into Hannity first time, Sean Hannity convinced God's son is innocent, advised him to release MiddleClass Jul 2017 #22
Perhaps he hates the whole presidency thing spinbaby Jul 2017 #16
I think both Donalds love the spotlight and money they are making. Hamlette Jul 2017 #21
I remember Donny saying, kskiska Jul 2017 #18
Two reasons, NYT was going to and distract from Kushner's criminal liability. L. Coyote Jul 2017 #19
Because he's hiding something much, much worse Blue_Tires Jul 2017 #23
I would say both of them have a double digit IQ MiddleClass Jul 2017 #24

Kablooie

(18,648 posts)
1. The NY Times already had the emails and they informed him before they released them.
Wed Jul 12, 2017, 02:40 AM
Jul 2017

Standard procedure with responsible reporting.

They gave him a chance to respond so he decided to pretend that he was generously releasing them himself.

Hamlette

(15,414 posts)
12. do we know how the Times got them?
Wed Jul 12, 2017, 12:12 PM
Jul 2017

I read that Kushner's lawyers found the emails. That would make sense, Kushner's legal jeopardy is higher (I guess because he is an employee...which I suppose means he took an oath) so his lawyers dig around to find what the FBI might find re: sketchy meetings.

But this means Kushner gave the emails to the Times? Which I don't think he would do without talking to Ivanka, maybe even Trump Senior was consulted. Are we playing out some version of King Lear here? Calling Dr. Freud.

Kablooie

(18,648 posts)
17. The Times didn't say but they told Jr they would release at 11:00 on Monday.
Wed Jul 12, 2017, 12:30 PM
Jul 2017

Just before 11:00 Jr started posting.
The Times released their info before he finished.

leftstreet

(36,119 posts)
2. Also by releasing them, he can't blame 'The Democrats'
Wed Jul 12, 2017, 02:45 AM
Jul 2017

They should have just let the NYT release them and then started tweeting away about the evils of Democrats, Hillary, Obama, and whatever else they throw against the wall

Morons

no_hypocrisy

(46,335 posts)
4. He didn't ask his attorney first.
Wed Jul 12, 2017, 06:25 AM
Jul 2017

Or his father.

Both would have told him not to do it.

Jr. made a knee-jerk decision out of panic.

OnDoutside

(19,990 posts)
8. I don't believe that is the case. NYT contacted him some time ago about these emails, which it looks
Wed Jul 12, 2017, 07:21 AM
Jul 2017

like they got from Kushner's lawyers. He's had time to decide what to do, bizarrely.

Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
6. He's an idiot and
Wed Jul 12, 2017, 06:56 AM
Jul 2017

so are his lawyers.
Deny, point fingers, obfuscate.
He gave them the info from HIS account. No blaming on fake news. No blaming on others. As long as he kept his mouth shut, he could sow doubt and keep others off balance.

He offered to cooperate. Ha! They have his emails. He gave them his leverage.

Dulcinea

(6,702 posts)
10. Another distraction.
Wed Jul 12, 2017, 07:28 AM
Jul 2017

Trumpcare is dead in the water. Maybe they thought it would be a distraction from the Repubs' ineptitude.

Yes, it's a helluva distraction, but we're not dealing with the brightest bulbs on the tree.

Squinch

(51,098 posts)
11. Two possibilities: either, as was said upthread, he is dumber than a box of rocks OR he is taking
Wed Jul 12, 2017, 07:46 AM
Jul 2017

the fall, putting out something very damning to make us feel like we have gotten the full story when in fact the full story is that Russia manipulated the actual vote totals.

The whole thing seemed too easy and too orchestrated to me. Trump(R) senior was in on the drafting of the statement that the meeting was about adoptions. So he knew what would eventually come out.

So I'm guessing its a smokescreen to hide the worse story.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
13. Because he really believes that he has a sort of carte blanche...
Wed Jul 12, 2017, 12:15 PM
Jul 2017

...and that he could admit to a lot without getting himself anywhere near in trouble. Also, he has no clue what is and is not allowed by law.

He has yet to be proven wrong.

ecstatic

(32,814 posts)
14. To gaslight & throw us off
Wed Jul 12, 2017, 12:22 PM
Jul 2017

Repubs are calling it a nothingburger. By releasing it, casual observers will think there's nothing to it or he wouldn't have released it. The question is: what does Mueller think?

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,235 posts)
15. I understand now that the Times was going to release them and probably asked him for comment...
Wed Jul 12, 2017, 12:23 PM
Jul 2017

...which probably prompted him to release them himself.

Still, looking at it objectively, it makes no sense at all for him to release them.

Getting ahead of a story that shows pretty damningly that your father's campaign was colluding with Russia accomplished nothing. He'd still get run over by the story.

It would have made more practical sense just to let the Times do its thing and attempt to run damage control or dilute the message after the fact. Probably wouldn't have accomplished much, but it would at least not make him look so stupid.

Shouting to the world, "Hey, lookie here! Here are emails showing we were colluding with Russia! And remember I gave them to you before the Times did, so neener-neener on them!"....no matter what way you slice it, it's just dumb.

Unless of course he was going to admit to his role and turn state's evidence. But instead, he ran to Hannity and still claimed he did nothing wrong.

MiddleClass

(888 posts)
22. Ran into Hannity first time, Sean Hannity convinced God's son is innocent, advised him to release
Wed Jul 12, 2017, 02:18 PM
Jul 2017

The idea of "getting out in front of the story" has one prerequisite, innocence.

When all prerequisites are not met, don't implement tried and true practice

spinbaby

(15,096 posts)
16. Perhaps he hates the whole presidency thing
Wed Jul 12, 2017, 12:30 PM
Jul 2017

And wants out. It's often been theorized that daddy doesn't like being president, but it's also entirely possible that junior hates this gig, too.

Hamlette

(15,414 posts)
21. I think both Donalds love the spotlight and money they are making.
Wed Jul 12, 2017, 01:14 PM
Jul 2017

and I don't mean salary. They are looting the treasury and want to stay to get more. They have to know if they leave in disgrace it will not be good for the Trump brand in the future, think Nixon. No one would have given Nixon the time of day after he resigned.

Maybe at a subconscious level, but not intentionally.

I do think that spotlight is going to get hot.

kskiska

(27,052 posts)
18. I remember Donny saying,
Wed Jul 12, 2017, 12:45 PM
Jul 2017

around the time of the inauguration, that he missed the excitement of the campaign. He also seemed to be hinting about running for office himself in the future.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
19. Two reasons, NYT was going to and distract from Kushner's criminal liability.
Wed Jul 12, 2017, 12:50 PM
Jul 2017

Jared Kushner is in criminal liability for not reporting the meeting, not Don Jr. They want this story to be about Little Donnie instead of about criminality in the White House.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
23. Because he's hiding something much, much worse
Wed Jul 12, 2017, 02:20 PM
Jul 2017

and I still say Trump is trying to use him as the sacrificial lamb, especially since Junior is by far his dumbest kid

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