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Siwsan

(26,345 posts)
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 08:09 AM Jul 2017

Was McCain's vote for health care the ultimate revenge for trump*'s disrespectful remark?

To me, it looks like, by returning and casting that first vote to let this move ahead, he was setting up trump* for a major embarrassment, thus getting his revenge for the POW remark.

I have never had much of anything positive to say about John McCain, but if that was his motive, I'd pat him on the back.

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janx

(24,128 posts)
4. I don't think so.
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 08:15 AM
Jul 2017

McCain clearly doesn't like Trump (to put it mildly), but we have to remember that McCain represents a state with a hell of a lot of retirees. Lots of old people in AZ. Health care is a big deal. He can't just pull out the rug from under them.

There are also many native Americans in AZ. The Navajo Nation alone is huge.

Siwsan

(26,345 posts)
7. I'm not overly familiar with his voting pattern, but this seems a rare deviation from the herd
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 08:20 AM
Jul 2017

And, let's face it, given his personal circumstances, re-election isn't on his mind. I'd like to think he was motivated to do what is right, but this is McCain.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
10. +1. He didn't like the process, either.
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 09:12 AM
Jul 2017

He and AZ gov had been working closely on healthcare and had amendments & ideas, as did other Republicans. They were dismayed that bills were crafted (and sometimes not even put in writing!) without carefully drafting it and voting on provisions and amendments by ALL the Senators, particularly the Republicans. He said he thought he and several others had good ideas that even some Dems would go for, and that they could put together a decent bill, which this skinny repeal was not.

FakeNoose

(32,930 posts)
5. Maybe you're right
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 08:16 AM
Jul 2017

... but McCain has been trash-talking this bill for a long time.
He finally grew a pair and voted against the party, and that's a huge step for him.

He might be motivated to get revenge against Trump, but this move is really hurting McConnell more than Trump.
So, either way, we owe him thanks.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
6. If that was the motive, it was a poor motive
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 08:18 AM
Jul 2017

I would not "pat him on the back" if his decision to avoid screwing millions of people was simply motivated by a desire for revenge against one person. One might think that doing the right thing shouldn't be out of spite.

Siwsan

(26,345 posts)
8. I don't remember, if he had voted against it moving forward, would that have stopped it
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 08:30 AM
Jul 2017

(Apologies for that clumsy sentence.)

And even if not, his voting against it moving forward combined with last night's vote would never have triggered my suspicion. However, the GOP rarely seems motivated by anything other than greed and control, and taking things away from people, thus my suspicion

lastlib

(23,399 posts)
15. It would have stopped this one, but....
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 09:22 AM
Jul 2017

...it would have allowed the GOPee to put together another attempt later. As it played out, it's dead. For this year. There may be ways to attach parts to other bills, but this whole-hog plan is shot.

lillypaddle

(9,581 posts)
9. I think there would have been more "no" votes
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 08:36 AM
Jul 2017

Like Lindsey Graham. I believe they held off so McCain could deliver the final nail.

lindysalsagal

(20,807 posts)
13. I believe McCain really does not want to be remembered for throwing granny out of her nursinghome in
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 09:17 AM
Jul 2017

into the gutter. I really believe he does not want to be remembered for that.

He did run from president, and he had no past with frump, and he knows he's expected to be the savior, So, combined with the insatiable ego, his move does not surprise me at all.

He has been around long enough to know that frump is a blip on the history screen, and will ultimately tarnish the republican brand if the protests continue, and they would had they tossed OBamacare.

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