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What about a Facebook BOYCOTT? After watching Rachel (Original Post) BigmanPigman Sep 2017 OP
A lot of people I know have already canceled their accounts Warpy Sep 2017 #1
I converted my account to "monitor mode". Hugin Sep 2017 #22
They got snowed as we all did during the election. They are gearing applegrove Sep 2017 #2
I agree. elleng Sep 2017 #5
Slam that old barn door real hard boys. Hugin Sep 2017 #20
Mark Zuckerberg vows more action to tackle fake news on Facebook applegrove Sep 2017 #23
That was PR, not a real effort sharedvalues Sep 2017 #26
The same un-American pos that lied about Russian collusion rockfordfile Sep 2017 #42
+1 Lucinda Sep 2017 #24
If they were honest they'd release the ads sharedvalues Sep 2017 #27
Her report laid it out Bradshaw3 Sep 2017 #3
Tempting. cilla4progress Sep 2017 #4
I vote for your idea! fierywoman Sep 2017 #6
As has been said many times here before, there is NO Constitutional process The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2017 #7
It's no use. There's no accounting for ignorance. longship Sep 2017 #8
I don't know, cilla4progress Sep 2017 #10
"just this one time"... Oh really?..." does not establish legal precedent".. Huh? Lostnote Sep 2017 #21
When the president and vp are impeached appoint HRC as vp sharedvalues Sep 2017 #28
It doesn't work that way. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2017 #41
It can. sharedvalues Sep 2017 #49
What makes you think a new president would appoint Hillary and then resign? The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2017 #50
Question was for a legal way. There is one. sharedvalues Sep 2017 #51
Where is the mulligan amendment in the constitution again? Baconator Sep 2017 #12
It doesn't have to be that cilla4progress Sep 2017 #13
considering FB has always been bdtrppr6 Sep 2017 #9
Easy! I'm not on FB anyway. Solly Mack Sep 2017 #11
good luck with that Skittles Sep 2017 #14
In defense of FB, I've seen where its ability PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2017 #15
I hope one day facebook can be a verified ID for signing up with applegrove Sep 2017 #16
No no no no. Don't give Facebook power over DU sharedvalues Sep 2017 #30
I never use FB as a sign in. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2017 #47
Me too sharedvalues Sep 2017 #48
I don't think so. Facebook is a un-American company. Do you work for facebook? rockfordfile Sep 2017 #43
I'm not on Facebook onecaliberal Sep 2017 #17
NO! Don't take it out on Facebook. Let's initiate a counter attack. underthematrix Sep 2017 #18
Facebook knew EXACTLY what was happening. sharedvalues Sep 2017 #31
Facebook committed a crime. facebook helped a foreign nation with trump to attack our country. rockfordfile Sep 2017 #44
You can't hurt Facebook with a boycott melman Sep 2017 #19
Exactly correct Orrex Sep 2017 #38
The question is, did FB commit any crimes in accepting foreign money to place ads on their site? Mr. Ected Sep 2017 #25
HELL FUCKING NO! It's where I have the best political discussions. nt m-lekktor Sep 2017 #29
get out more. Facebook is a pos company. rockfordfile Sep 2017 #45
If this was organized, it would really give Facebook a taste of it's MySpace future. PubliusEnigma Sep 2017 #32
Started boycotting after the election... Trueblue Texan Sep 2017 #33
i am just glad they came forward...i never use FB except to.... samnsara Sep 2017 #34
Facebook lied at first. It seems that trump gave info to the Russians. "To help them" rockfordfile Sep 2017 #46
Not a boycott....but certainly a campaign that made sure Facebook understands how many of their Pachamama Sep 2017 #35
I haven't logged on in 3 years crazycatlady Sep 2017 #36
You and everyone you know and everyone they know could boycott FB Orrex Sep 2017 #37
It happened naturally for me. Baitball Blogger Sep 2017 #39
Never used it. I have a life. other than that Facebook should be gone. It's a un-American company rockfordfile Sep 2017 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author ymetca Sep 2017 #52
For what? I don't think anyone who would vote for Clinton would have been swayed Hoyt Sep 2017 #53
I would if I could, but I already did. defacto7 Sep 2017 #54
Everytime you see an ad you don't want to see, click the Hide All Ads from ___ option. tanyev Sep 2017 #55

Warpy

(111,462 posts)
1. A lot of people I know have already canceled their accounts
Thu Sep 7, 2017, 12:23 AM
Sep 2017

since the MAGA crowd have turned it into such an intellectual sewer.

Hugin

(33,222 posts)
22. I converted my account to "monitor mode".
Thu Sep 7, 2017, 02:43 AM
Sep 2017

The day after I found a bunch of Pro-Putin crap in my ad preferences. Mind you, this was in Aug of '16.

applegrove

(118,916 posts)
2. They got snowed as we all did during the election. They are gearing
Thu Sep 7, 2017, 12:26 AM
Sep 2017

up to stop fake news sources. Plus they are doing good things in Africa.

Hugin

(33,222 posts)
20. Slam that old barn door real hard boys.
Thu Sep 7, 2017, 02:39 AM
Sep 2017

Wouldn't want paybacks from the opposition.

Gearing up? I haven't seen jack on that.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
26. That was PR, not a real effort
Thu Sep 7, 2017, 07:54 AM
Sep 2017

That was Facebook getting out in front of the very bad news they know is coming. That was not a real effort by Facebook to do anything.


If Facebook really wanted to figure out their problems -- they would release the ads Russians and Trump ran. But they're afraid to do that.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
27. If they were honest they'd release the ads
Thu Sep 7, 2017, 07:56 AM
Sep 2017

Facebook is desperately trying to cover up a huge scandal. If they really wanted to be transparent we'd know because they'd release the ads Trump and Russia ran. But right now it is a coverup.

Bradshaw3

(7,553 posts)
3. Her report laid it out
Thu Sep 7, 2017, 12:27 AM
Sep 2017

Wonder how Zuckerberg can defend their continuing denials? Also what made them do the turnabout?
As she also made it clear, there is NO doubt about what happened in our election. Mueller has to cross the t's and dot the i's but it is obvious there was collusiuon.

cilla4progress

(24,801 posts)
4. Tempting.
Thu Sep 7, 2017, 12:27 AM
Sep 2017

Zuckerberg has some 'splainin to do.

Whole election was fraudulent and should be overturned; granted to the popular vote winner.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,996 posts)
7. As has been said many times here before, there is NO Constitutional process
Thu Sep 7, 2017, 12:39 AM
Sep 2017

for overturning an election. So how would that be done?

longship

(40,416 posts)
8. It's no use. There's no accounting for ignorance.
Thu Sep 7, 2017, 12:47 AM
Sep 2017

Some people prefer to remain ignorant of the US Constitution. Or of the fact that it is the basis of law of the land.

They prefer to just make shit up about what is possible under some made up laws.

Go figure.

cilla4progress

(24,801 posts)
10. I don't know,
Thu Sep 7, 2017, 12:54 AM
Sep 2017

I'm a legal professional and I know of some very novel, foundational things / decisions that have been made including at the Supreme Court level. Brand new interpretations. For example, Dred Scott, then Brown v. Board of Education. Bush v. Gore.

If it's a case of 1st impression and the political pressure is there, things can happen.

Lostnote

(75 posts)
21. "just this one time"... Oh really?..." does not establish legal precedent".. Huh?
Thu Sep 7, 2017, 02:42 AM
Sep 2017

Granted my view of law and order has as its foundation the wrong end of a barrel however 5/4 certainly established legal precedent by the nature of its cause and effect on state oversight of election law.... Now, theft and collusion have been introduced on the federal level.... "Just one time" was the excuse for federal interference into a states election... "Just one more time" could be the clarion call for the do-over of a presidential election.... Thank you for your attention, now back to my guitar... Best wishes

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,996 posts)
41. It doesn't work that way.
Thu Sep 7, 2017, 10:07 AM
Sep 2017

Next in line is Speaker of the House if pres & vice are impeached together. Otherwise the sitting president appoints a new vp and that wouldn't be HRC.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
49. It can.
Thu Sep 7, 2017, 11:54 PM
Sep 2017

Pres and vp go. Speaker/senator now Pres. New president appoints Hillary vp then resigns. Presto, Hillary is legally president.

We were talking aboit a legal, constitutional way to make HRC president. It is possible. Unlike an election redo.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,996 posts)
50. What makes you think a new president would appoint Hillary and then resign?
Thu Sep 7, 2017, 11:58 PM
Sep 2017

If Pence and Trump go at the same time, under the 25th Amendment the new president would be Paul Ryan, the GOP Speaker of the House. Do you really think he'd appoint Hillary VP and then resign so she could be president? Seriously?

Sorry, but

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
51. Question was for a legal way. There is one.
Fri Sep 8, 2017, 12:03 AM
Sep 2017

There is a legal way.

I'm not saying it's likely.

There is NO legal way to do the election over. It's just not contemplated in any form by our laws.

cilla4progress

(24,801 posts)
13. It doesn't have to be that
Thu Sep 7, 2017, 01:04 AM
Sep 2017

Literal.

How is it we have had the credibility as a country to oversee free and fair elections abroad, if there is not some guarantee in our laws at some level for the same here?

 

bdtrppr6

(796 posts)
9. considering FB has always been
Thu Sep 7, 2017, 12:49 AM
Sep 2017

a forum for meal-photo sharing and illness/disease "poor me" posts, along with a shitload of non rational political "memes" from completely uninformed spouters, i hope it dies a swift, painful death and i never have to hear the words "mark zuckerberg" again.

twitter is just as bad. at least there, you pick who you want to follow and unfollow easily instead of "friending/shunning". but there is a lot of stupid shit on twitter. just a good place to get up to minute news if you don't play the game, worrying about followers and shit to make yourself feel better.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,929 posts)
15. In defense of FB, I've seen where its ability
Thu Sep 7, 2017, 01:20 AM
Sep 2017

to get information out to a lot of people is useful.

The incident I'm thinking of involves something very personal, but I was very grateful that FB was there.

applegrove

(118,916 posts)
16. I hope one day facebook can be a verified ID for signing up with
Thu Sep 7, 2017, 01:57 AM
Sep 2017

places like the DU with a username. To keep out trolls and sock puppets and Russians. Facebook is our great hope for leading us into this new age. Bad experiences like the ones with the Russians will just build security and review into the system. No other group exists with its scope or ressources.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
30. No no no no. Don't give Facebook power over DU
Thu Sep 7, 2017, 07:58 AM
Sep 2017

Facebook really wants to run logins for other sites so they can get personal data from those sites. Facebook makes money by selling personal data.

I highly recommend that you do not use Facebook logins for anything but Facebook.

rockfordfile

(8,709 posts)
43. I don't think so. Facebook is a un-American company. Do you work for facebook?
Thu Sep 7, 2017, 10:12 AM
Sep 2017

I'm asking because it sounds like it.

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
18. NO! Don't take it out on Facebook. Let's initiate a counter attack.
Thu Sep 7, 2017, 02:30 AM
Sep 2017

Block any and all HATE ads

FACEBOOK has turned over all info to Special Counsel

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
31. Facebook knew EXACTLY what was happening.
Thu Sep 7, 2017, 08:01 AM
Sep 2017

Facebook took tens of millions from Trump. And they knew how racist and hateful those ads were.

Facebook is complicit in hatemongering and dividing America at best, and complicit in Russian manipulation at worst.




Orrex

(63,284 posts)
38. Exactly correct
Thu Sep 7, 2017, 09:26 AM
Sep 2017

It's like boycotting Walmart. It's a futile exercise in feel-goodism, less meaningful than signing an online petition and even less likely to have any impact.

Mr. Ected

(9,675 posts)
25. The question is, did FB commit any crimes in accepting foreign money to place ads on their site?
Thu Sep 7, 2017, 07:51 AM
Sep 2017

Political ads.

I know it's illegal for a candidate to accept such funding during a campaign, but what of private enterprise?

Trueblue Texan

(2,451 posts)
33. Started boycotting after the election...
Thu Sep 7, 2017, 08:09 AM
Sep 2017

When the posts started looking like Nazis were flourishing on there, I got out. I tried talking sense for a while, but realized I was wasting my energy. I lost an old friend, who never would have been considered a friend if I'd known she was a bigot and a right wing fool. I no longer have a Facebook account and do not miss it.

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
35. Not a boycott....but certainly a campaign that made sure Facebook understands how many of their
Thu Sep 7, 2017, 09:00 AM
Sep 2017

...users feel about this. Just like often one can put a feature on their Facebook page showing solidarity with victims of a terrorism tragedy, this would be the time for users of Facebook to change their Facebook photo to reflect their opinion of Facebook having participated (even if unknowingly) in a Russian disinformation campaign against our country to steal an election.

crazycatlady

(4,492 posts)
36. I haven't logged on in 3 years
Thu Sep 7, 2017, 09:16 AM
Sep 2017

It also doesn't hurt that my professional reputation was destroyed by that site (wannabe KKK former friend posted racial slurs to my page).

Orrex

(63,284 posts)
37. You and everyone you know and everyone they know could boycott FB
Thu Sep 7, 2017, 09:24 AM
Sep 2017

And it wouldn't make even a blip of difference on the balance sheet.

Hell, everyone who watched Maddow and everyone who's ever watched Maddow could boycott and Zuck wouldn't even notice.

Baitball Blogger

(46,780 posts)
39. It happened naturally for me.
Thu Sep 7, 2017, 10:00 AM
Sep 2017

So many important things are going on around us, that I just had very little time for chi-cherias.

Response to BigmanPigman (Original post)

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
53. For what? I don't think anyone who would vote for Clinton would have been swayed
Fri Sep 8, 2017, 12:32 AM
Sep 2017

by obviously false/vile junk.

Heck, there was false stuff everywhere, including here. Plus, we need to be nimble enough to handle whatever is thrown at us.

tanyev

(42,676 posts)
55. Everytime you see an ad you don't want to see, click the Hide All Ads from ___ option.
Fri Sep 8, 2017, 08:16 AM
Sep 2017

Everytime Facebook shows you groups you want no part of, click on the X in the top right corner to remove it.

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