It could be it is not very advanced. He only has bad episodes so far, and yesterday was one of them. This is why Ivanka came in and broke up the meeting, she knew Daddy was not as focused as usual and why she went to SD with him. She did not want to go to SD, she went to babysit.

Now, that is not to say he is not a vindictive a hole, I believe that is a pre-existing condition with Trump.

How would anyone but a mental health professional identify early-onset dementia symptoms from traits of personality disorders? The "pre-existing conditions."

Considering his dad, it certainly could well be happening, but no leaks of reaganesque snoozing yet, which at least would be a new development.

and since he was Prez everyone to give him a "chance" including voters and media and overlook all his crimes and racists actions.

He thought he'd be UNTOUCHABLE!

Also he thought his every thought, ask & farts to be turned into the laws of the land instantaneously.

and all foreign leaders to kiss his ass.

He thought he would not have any checks and balances.

he thought he invite Russians to weekly dinners and heck give them some WH oversight and voters rolls.

If someone would just have him draw the face of a clock, that question might be answered.

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My Mom has been treated for early onset.

I think the president's actions can more easily be explained by some sort of condition.

the way he acts defies anything I come in contact with in the business world. I don't know anyone who acts like that at the professional level. At least, if he acts like that, he can't keep his job.

But some times I get to thinking "is this asshole putting us all on?"

Can you explain that a little?

It is a very basic test that neurologists give to patients that show some of the signs of those conditions.

They tell they to draw the clock, and put the hands at a specific time. I think with my Mom it was 3 o'clock. She became very frustrated and angry that she could not accomplish that simple task.

Not sure why this happens, but like I said - it's a pretty common way to start a diagnosis.

Thanks for the explanation.

Wristwatches have become quaint. Between first the digital clocks and then people moving to smartphones, I would not be surprised if a not-insignificant percentage of younger Americans will not be adept at understanding the clock face! As these folk age, clock comprehension may no longer be such a good test.

It would be easy to say there are a few more generations, in line, who grew up with reading a clock with hands, but I also know that dementia and Alzheimer's can strike some people at a very early age. I had a boss whose husband was in his early 50's, when he was diagnosed and I've heard of cases with people even younger than that.

Someone else mentioned they have people spell 'WORLD' backwards.

She didn't know the date, or where we were. She called my brother by my Dad's name, but she knew me. Then the doctor asked her if she knew who was President. She said "Oh, it's a funny name. I can't remember it, but he's black. I didn't vote for him!"

I had to laugh. I feel quite flattered that they last two people she really could identify were me and (sort of) Barack Obama!

Trump was clearly way behind in the popular vote. It only took one person to see where the possible electoral college path was. That somebody may have been Brad Parscale.

from http://highline.huffingtonpost.com/articles/en/mercers/

that is for sure.

... that the old saying "there is no such thing as bad publicity" is true in some certain circumstances.

I wouldn't read too much into all this.

on some basic/primal level he understands how to game the system and the media. I think his accession says a lot more about this Country than it does about him. "The fault dear Brutus is not in our stars but in ourselves..."

His years hosting a reality TV show have honed his ability to play to his intended audience, most of whom are probably more ignorant than he is. He knows all the latest talking points and memes in the rightwing bubble because he watches Fox News and alt-right sources incessantly.

I think it's a mistake to ascribe grand strategies or any kind of coherent world view to him. By far the overriding ideology of Donald Trump is whatever pumps up the ego and bank account of Donald Trump.

He is a malignant narcissist and probably a sociopath. Truth matters not a whit to him.

This pathological liar who cares only for himself and what others can do for him is certainly demented, but not in the sense of clinical dementia characterized by memory loss and disorientation.

He's in the early stages and it's not going to get better.

His life is the very definition of "Falling in Style". And now he's President.

He was bored and wanted to end the meeting so he could get upstairs to eat KFC and watch cable news.

he ain't no fuckin' genius!

And a huge asshole.