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Stuart G

(38,458 posts)
Fri Sep 8, 2017, 03:34 PM Sep 2017

Texas Politicians Warn against Donating to the Red Cross,: The Independent

https://www.yahoo.com/news/hurricane-harvey-texas-politicians-warn-112158760.html

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Politicians in the hurricane-hit city of Houston are warning against donating to the American Red Cross.

Houston City councilor Dave Martin told a district meeting: “I beg you not to send them a penny” and repeatedly branded the Congress-endorsed charity “the red loss”.

Speaking two weeks after the devastating hurricane which left at least 70 people dead, Mr Martin claimed that local government had done most of the difficult work in the aftermath of the disaster as well as providing the majority of resources.

“Yet every time I turn on the TV, I see (the Red Cross) taking in millions of dollars in donations,” he said, branding the charity “the most inept, unorganized organization I’ve ever experienced”.

“Don’t waste your money. Give it to another cause,” added Mr Martin, an independent member of the council who has a background working in private sector management.

Other members of the council told local media after the meeting that they were grateful for the work of thousands of Red Cross volunteers across the region who have helped set up shelters for those forced to leave their homes after the hurricane caused severe flooding.

Other public officials have expressed concern about the organisation, including Harris County Judge Ed Emmett, who reportedly asked a local charity to set up a shelter for those displaced by the hurricane because he did not trust the Red Cross to do so.

“The Red Cross could not have done this. They wouldn't have had the wherewithal to do it,” Mr Emmett reportedly said. “Don't get me wrong, they're out there on the front lines, but I had already seen the difficulty and we needed to get this set up quickly.”

The charity has been criticized for failing to ensure supplies reached shelters quickly enough after one of Houston’s two Red Cross shelters could not accept evacuees at all because of high water levels and the other had just 200 beds for what turned out to be more than 2,000 people.
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There are a variety of opinions about the Red Cross. This article seems to be mostly negative, but I urge you to read the entire article. Also, read other articles about the Red Cross..

I have found another article on the Red Cross from the Houston Press, far more complete than the above..
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http://www.houstonpress.com/news/houston-councilman-martin-tells-houstoninans-to-avoid-donating-to-red-cross-9767571
from the above article, these two paragraphs..
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Just a week ago, NPR pressed American Red Cross executive Brad Kieserman about what percentage of the money people donate for Hurricane Harvey relief will actually end up helping the flood victims — but he did not know.

Elsewhere along the Texas Gulf Coast, some have criticized the Red Cross's approach to operating relief centers where hundreds of people need food, water and a place to sleep. Over near Beaumont, a woman's post on Facebook went viral after she complained about how the Red Cross tried to put 400 warm hamburgers into an ice chest after a pilot had just flown them all the way from Austin to Beaumont's regional airport. Jolei Shipley, an attorney and Harvey volunteer who witnessed the dispute, told the Houston Press the pilot — with the disaster relief nonprofit Sky Hope Network — had learned while delivering relief supplies that the hundreds of evacuees hadn't had a warm meal in more than 24 hours, subsisting on PB&J sandwiches and snacks like pretzels. The Red Cross, however, wouldn't allow the burgers to be distributed because the people had just eaten sandwiches a few hours earlier, Shipley said.
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Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
2. Agreed. "Texas politicians" would only want money go to a church or church organization so they can
Fri Sep 8, 2017, 03:39 PM
Sep 2017

do some recruiting at the same time.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
9. Charity Navigator is a good place to start when looking for effective organizations
Fri Sep 8, 2017, 06:15 PM
Sep 2017

They, and other independent orgs have rated Red Cross, which has heavily criticized for failure to spend more than a small % of the money they collected for Haiti.
It was reported that Red Cross Administration paid itself handsomely.
Appears that thru the years Red Cross has changed from what we used to know.

I was bit upset to find they sell donated blood, which they say they need to do "for expenses", not mentioning the millions they get from the public.

The Red Cross, which supplies about half of the nation's donor supply, is telling hospitals of its plans to raise the cost of a pint of blood. National officials say the prices are being determined by local blood centers.

Indiana hospitals, for example, have already learned their prices are rising 10 percent to 35 percent.

The typical pint of red blood cell product now costs $130 to $150.
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=117431

JimGinPA

(14,811 posts)
3. I Only Know A Little About The Red Cross...
Fri Sep 8, 2017, 03:50 PM
Sep 2017

But when my younger boy was a Cub Scout one of the kids in his den had a fire in their apartment just before Christmas. They lost everything. The Red Cross stepped in immediately & not only found them a place to live, got new clothes for him & his (single parent) mother but made sure he got everything that had been under the tree replaced. So I don't mind donating to them even though the organization may not be perfect.

Stuart G

(38,458 posts)
4. I also know very little, almost nothing about ..The Red Cross...
Fri Sep 8, 2017, 03:53 PM
Sep 2017

There have been articles critical of it...but I don't know how accurate or wide spread the criticism is..that is why I posted another source..

trc

(823 posts)
5. A quick check of the Red Cross website
Fri Sep 8, 2017, 03:55 PM
Sep 2017

Shows that for 2016 about 10 percent of their budget was spent fund raising and overhead. Ok, not bad. But only about 12 percent went to disaster assistance. That seems to be the complaint here. If I donate 100$ to help with disaster relief I expect and hope that more than 12 percent of that goes to the disaster I am specifically being asked to donate for. That is why local politicians ask that donations be made to to local charities that have a presence in the effected communities.

Stuart G

(38,458 posts)
6. Here is another story about 2016 analysis of the Red Cross...From NPR
Fri Sep 8, 2017, 04:00 PM
Sep 2017
http://www.npr.org/2016/06/16/482020436/senators-report-finds-fundamental-concerns-about-red-cross-finances

This one is about the 2010 Haiti Earthquake and what the Red Cross may have done. It is not about the present situation in Houston...

article title: Report: Red Cross Spent 25 Percent Of Haiti Donations On Internal Expenses................ ..date..June 16,2016

The American Red Cross spent a quarter of the money people donated after the 2010 Haiti earthquake — or almost $125 million — on its own internal expenses, far more than the charity previously had disclosed, according to a report released Thursday by Iowa Sen. Chuck Grassley

The report also says the charity's top officials stonewalled congressional investigators and released incomplete information about its Haiti program to the public. It concludes "there are substantial and fundamental concerns about [the Red Cross] as an organization."

WhiteTara

(29,736 posts)
7. After Elizabeth Dole took the reins of Red Cross
Fri Sep 8, 2017, 04:04 PM
Sep 2017

everything changed. Instead of being a service organization, it became political as Bob Dole ran for office. The organization has not recovered IMO

unc70

(6,128 posts)
8. It already had problems before Dole
Fri Sep 8, 2017, 04:30 PM
Sep 2017

But Elizabeth Dole certainly made them worse. The Red Cross is always in front of the cameras, but it is usually the state and local governments who staff and pay for the shelters. The ARC sometimes provides Tshirts for volunteers.

My late father in law despised the Red Cross since WWII. Said they charged the soldiers for everything they did while misleading in their PSAs.

11. My mom despised them too
Fri Sep 8, 2017, 07:46 PM
Sep 2017

Her story was that the Red Cross charged the soldiers for the doughnuts and coffee they handed out.

10. After 9/11, people sent millions to the Red Cross, thinking it would be dedicated to disaster relief
Fri Sep 8, 2017, 07:37 PM
Sep 2017

When people found out their donations were funneled into the organization's general fund and not specifically to 9/11, they were beyond pissed. Red Cross had done nothing to dissuade this misunderstanding -- just raked in the cash and smiled. It takes a lot of money to pay for an impressive Washington D.C. headquarters. Then again, it takes a lot of money to provide the relief it does.

Like the hamburger story, there is anecdotal evidence against the Red Cross, just as there is in favor of it. Personally, I think my donation is better used by local organizations, such as the Houston Food Bank http://www.houstonfoodbank.org/donate/ or other local Houston services.

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