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struggle4progress

(118,379 posts)
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 12:12 AM Sep 2017

Mixed messages cause frustration, fear

By Jenny Drabble
Winston-Salem Journal 1 hr ago

... "I wish they would just say 'yes' or 'no' definitively so we could have that certainty and not have to live in fear," said Sandra Munoz, who was brought to the U.S. from Mexico when she was 7 years old. "So far it’s back and forth, nothing official, just playing with our emotions" ...

"They shift from 'The dreamers are safe, we love dreamers,' to'‘We’re taking away DACA, pack your bags and prepare to leave,'" Parsonage said Thursday. "Last night there was a deal, this morning there isn’t. It’s frustrating, incompetent and some variation of cruel" ...

http://www.journalnow.com/news/local/mixed-messages-on-daca-cause-frustration-fear/article_5ee4192b-e256-5fae-abc0-6c2ec88d2932.html

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Mixed messages cause frustration, fear (Original Post) struggle4progress Sep 2017 OP
stop letting 'Dreamers' twist in the wind struggle4progress Sep 2017 #1
Everyone Is Confused struggle4progress Sep 2017 #2
'We need something more concrete' struggle4progress Sep 2017 #3
Everything President Ever Said About DACA struggle4progress Sep 2017 #4
'Nothing Will Be Official, Until It's Official' struggle4progress Sep 2017 #5
'If we don't have the wall, we're doing nothing' struggle4progress Sep 2017 #6
Message on DACA, Dreamers loses coherence struggle4progress Sep 2017 #7
Yes? No? Sort of? Confusing. struggle4progress Sep 2017 #8

struggle4progress

(118,379 posts)
1. stop letting 'Dreamers' twist in the wind
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 12:16 AM
Sep 2017

The Times Editorial Board

... It would be outrageous, frankly, if they can’t reach an agreement. Trump’s decision earlier this month to withdraw the DACA protections promised to some 800,000 people — most of whom came to this country as a result of decisions made by their parents — was cruel and unnecessary ...

We hope the president and .. Congress can .. make this work. Fairness demands it, as do most of the American people ... Dreamers deserve not just protection from deportation, but a path to true citizenship. These are people .. who often have spent little time in the country where they were born, speak only English and have been brought up as Americans. To qualify for DACA protections, they had to be in school or have graduated or to have been in the military.

Trump should set aside his insistence on his silly wall .. and put the well-being of the Dreamers ahead of his ill-advised campaign promises.

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/editorials/la-ed-trump-daca-congress-deal-20170914-story.html

struggle4progress

(118,379 posts)
2. Everyone Is Confused
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 12:19 AM
Sep 2017

By Matt Laslo
9 hours ago

... rank-and-file Democrats fear their party leaders may be the ones getting duped. In exchange for solving DACA, the president is demanding ramped-up border security, and while Democrats say they have already taken funding for a physical wall off the table, they may be willing to support sending more agents to the border along with additional drones and other border-security enhancements ...

"No, I don't think the president actually understands what he's saying half the time, so I'm afraid if he struck a deal with them that he'll go back on his word at any time," Democratic Rep. Ruben Gallego told reporters. "I'm always skeptical when dealing with Donald Trump."

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/everyone-is-confused-about-what-trump-is-doing-with-daca-w503137

struggle4progress

(118,379 posts)
3. 'We need something more concrete'
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 12:22 AM
Sep 2017

Hamed Aleaziz
September 14, 2017
Updated: September 14, 2017 6:01pm

... "This is a president that has backtracked on his word before," he said. "I think I can speak for most dreamers — we need to see something more concrete. We’re not going to get excited" ...

"He says one thing and then five minutes later he changes his mind — there’s multiple examples of that" ...

"To me, it’s very untrustworthy," he said. "It’s frustrating more than anything. We’ve been playing by the rules since we lived here" ...

http://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/Dreamer-reacts-to-potential-DACA-deal-We-need-12199307.php

struggle4progress

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4. Everything President Ever Said About DACA
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 12:26 AM
Sep 2017

Alana Abramson,Katie Reilly
Sep 14, 2017

... September 14, 2017 ... "We're working on a plan — subject to getting massive border controls" ...

February 2017 ... "We’re going to show great heart. DACA is a very, very difficult subject for me. I will tell you. To me, it's one of the most difficult subjects I have" ...

August 2016 ... "We will immediately terminate President Obama’s two illegal executive amnesties, in which he defied federal law and the constitution to give amnesty to approximately 5 million illegal immigrants" ...

http://time.com/4941733/trump-daca-deal-enshrine/

struggle4progress

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5. 'Nothing Will Be Official, Until It's Official'
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 12:30 AM
Sep 2017

PRISCILLA ALVAREZ
SEP 14, 2017

... “It’s almost like watching a novela" ...

... "it’s always somewhat surreal to have to hear those conversations and know it’s you they’re talking about, and they’re using <you> to find some sort of deal" ...

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/09/nothing-will-be-official-until-its-official/539844/

struggle4progress

(118,379 posts)
6. 'If we don't have the wall, we're doing nothing'
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 12:31 AM
Sep 2017

Peter Jacobs and Bryan Logan

... Trump said he was still insisting on getting a wall built along the US-Mexico border.

"Ultimately, we have to have the wall," he told reporters. "If we don't have the wall, we're doing nothing" ...

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-tweets-no-deal-on-daca-2017-9

struggle4progress

(118,379 posts)
7. Message on DACA, Dreamers loses coherence
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 12:36 AM
Sep 2017

09/14/17 08:45 AM—UPDATED 09/14/17 10:31 AM
By Steve Benen

... when Donald Trump’s administration rescinded the DACA policy that extended protections to nearly 1 million Dreamers, the New York Times noted an interesting behind-the-scenes detail: White House officials were reportedly worried that the president didn’t "fully grasp the details of the steps he was about to take."

The piece added that these same officials "privately expressed concern" that when Trump discovered the "full impact" of his policy shift, he might reverse course ...

... we’ve reached the point at which Trump wants to protect the young immigrants who, just last week, he wanted to strip protections from ...

... Trump seems lost without a map. During the campaign, he vowed to rescind DACA and subject Dreamers to deportation. After the election, he said Dreamers can "rest easy." Last week, Trump scrapped the DACA policy, only to suggest soon after he’s prepared to "revisit" the issue if Congress doesn’t act ...

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trumps-message-daca-dreamers-loses-its-coherence


struggle4progress

(118,379 posts)
8. Yes? No? Sort of? Confusing.
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 12:42 AM
Sep 2017

By Ashley Parker
September 14 at 8:25 PM

At 6:11 Thursday morning .. Trump tweeted .. he and Democratic congressional leaders had reached "no deal" ...

At 6:20 a.m. .. he tweeted that the .. wall .. "will continue to be built" ...

... at 6:28 a.m., he tweeted .. outlining the .. deal he claimed didn’t exist ...

The tweets underscore the .. uncertainty he seems to sow in others and exhibit himself ...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-and-democrats-strike-daca-deal-yes-no-sort-of-trumps-world-can-be-confusing/2017/09/14/ab6a40d4-9970-11e7-82e4-f1076f6d6152_story.html?utm_term=.4e642325a685

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