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The Kremlin smeared Morgan Freeman on Wednesday for saying that the United States is at war with Russia over that countrys attempts to destabilize the U.S. through election interference, said the Moscow Times.
BigmanPigman
(51,672 posts)If Putin is pissed off than you know it was spot on!
fierywoman
(7,707 posts)spanone
(135,950 posts)sadly, we will NEVER hear trump say those words.
asiliveandbreathe
(8,203 posts)Thank goodness - good people are stepping up - I recall one of the Emmy winners saying .."come on, let's go, we have lots of work to do"..
https://investigaterussia.org/
RESIST PERSIST
Maven
(10,533 posts)For those who were still "unsure" about it being a Putin propaganda outlet.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,151 posts)MontanaMama
(23,368 posts)Thom Hartmann have any credibility staying on RT? I always thought he was well infomred albeit kind of a snob. I really don't like listening to him but I would think that this is over the top even for him.
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)And the spokesperson of the russian foreign ministry is pushing the lie that Manafort was illegally wiretapped.
whathehell
(29,111 posts)in the ad -- It's a good one.
JustAnotherGen
(32,046 posts)Between their 'followers' and them I don't think they quite know the meaning of the word emotional.
I'm very low key at DU about it but I'm 'emotional' about Russia - to the point of blind hatred. Mr. Freeman was calm, cool, and collected.
Just another Russkie smear campaign.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,151 posts)FailureToCommunicate
(14,034 posts)saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)SusanaMontana41
(3,233 posts)Can Putin throw his voice, too?
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,776 posts)I wish we could make Drumpf see it.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)forgotmylogin
(7,540 posts)logosoco
(3,208 posts)I guess they think that because they were able to fool so many people with their ads and such that they think people will listen to them now. Not about Mr. Freeman!
Initech
(100,149 posts)MLAA
(17,375 posts)peggysue2
(10,853 posts)Putin and his cabal are trashing the voice of God, insisting that Freeman is merely speaking from an emotional, uninformed position. Strange that a single vid would inspire Russia and its mouthpieces to react so swiftly.
One might think that Freeman struck a nerve with this video. Particularly with those opening comments:
We are at war.
Yes, we are, have been for some time. This is called the Waking of America. And God's voice is about as good as it gets.
LAS14
(13,792 posts)The best use of his wonderful presence he has ever made!!!!
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)is a truly decent and caring human being. An attack on one of US is an attack on all of US.
FailureToCommunicate
(14,034 posts)Check it out...
https://investigaterussia.org
ancianita
(36,238 posts)LakeArenal
(28,889 posts)If Putin thinks he can damage Morgan Freeman.... haha
Might as well go after my father. Neither one will be diminished in anybody's eyes but their own.
Ha Ha Putin.. Not even a good try.... Besides... going after Hollywood celebrities now? I guess you don't have enough American politicians in your pocket. Or are you beginning to see the end of your reign in America? Either way, you and dump are jokes.. Mean vicious, dirty, nasty jokes. But jokes just the same.
marieo1
(1,402 posts)I agree.
SusanaMontana41
(3,233 posts)Wonderful ad!
iluvtennis
(19,912 posts)gademocrat7
(10,688 posts)Thank you, Morgan Freeman.
VaBchTgerLily
(231 posts)niyad
(113,964 posts)BadgerMom
(2,772 posts)doesn't like it when social media--HONEST social media--targets him? Good to know. He's in our crosshairs and once we've resolved the problem he's helped create, I hope we bring the hurt.
lark
(23,199 posts)They started a secret war with us to destabilize our democracy by inserting a man who had no allegiance to and who doesn't personally subscribe to our nations' values and morals. Someone who only cared about himself and who they could manipulate to destroy our country and rip us apart from our valued allies. Someone who was ignorant enough to fall for their ploys as long as they flattered him. Calling them on this is not an act of war, it's recognizing that Russia fired the first shots a while ago and we need to stop them killing us.
samnsara
(17,665 posts)samnsara
(17,665 posts)fleur-de-lisa
(14,629 posts)This is the website for the project: https://investigaterussia.org/
It's called Committee to Investigate Russia. It's loaded with excellent information.
And these are the Advisory Board members:
Max Boot - Military Historian and Foreign Policy Analyst
James Clapper - Former Director of National Intelligence
Norman Ornstein - American Enterprise Institute Resident Scholar
Rob Reiner - Director, Actor, and Activist
Charles Sykes - Conservative Commentator
HarmonyRockets
(397 posts)Charlie Sykes? Max Boot? Norman Ornstein?
No thanks.
leftstreet
(36,119 posts)what the heck?
MFM008
(19,837 posts)Now we just dismiss this?
Fat chance Russia bots.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,501 posts)ancianita
(36,238 posts)investigaterussia.org's Advisory Board:
Max Boot -- Military Historian and Foreign Policy Analyst
James Clapper -- Former Director of National Intelligence
Norman Ornstein -- American Enterprise Institute Resident Scholar
Rob Reiner -- Director, Actor, and Activist
Charles Sykes -- Conservative Commentator
I have mixed feelings about this group, no matter what their stated goal is on this issue.
I love Reiner and Freeman, but should they ally themselves with people from the American Enterprise Institute?
The American Enterprise Institute has been around since 1938, yet it takes them nine months to take a position about an intelligence revelation back in January?
I'm not trying to be cynical or discredit them, but honestly, to have people from AEI on this committee? I'm just not feelin' it.
from Wikipedia, on AEI:
More than twenty staff members served either in a Bush administration policy post or on one of the government's many panels and commissions. Among the prominent former government officials now affiliated with AEI are: Dick Cheney, vice president of the United States under George W. Bush, is a member of AEI's Board of Trustees;[6] John R. Bolton, former Ambassador to the United Nations; Lynne Cheney, former chairman of the National Endowment for the Humanities; Paul Wolfowitz, former Deputy Secretary of Defense. AEI current scholars include Kevin Hassett, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Michael Barone, Nicholas Eberstadt, Jonah Goldberg, Phil Gramm, Glenn Hubbard, Frederick Kagan, Leon Kass, Jon Kyl, Charles Murray, Norman Ornstein, Mark J. Perry, Danielle Pletka, Michael Rubin, Gary Schmitt, Christina Hoff Sommers, Jim Talent, Peter J. Wallison, Michael R. Strain, Bill Lenner, and W. Bradford Wilcox.[7]
Former AEI scholars or affiliates notably include President Gerald Ford, William J. Baroody, Jr., William J. Baroody, Sr., Robert Bork, Arthur F. Burns, Ronald Coase, Dinesh D'Souza, Alfred de Grazia, Christopher DeMuth, Martin Feldstein, Milton Friedman, David Frum,
This kinda looks like a make-work patriotic project.
If this group convinces right wingers that this Internet insurgency is a real problem, I suppose this might win over doubtful Republicans, but I can't believe the AEI members will do anything but find ways to block this situation from Republican consciousness.
Or lull Democrats into thinking that Republicans are their patriotic allies.
I'm probably overreacting.
VOX
(22,976 posts)All members of the advisory board (and former neocon but still conservative David Frum) have frequently been on MSNBC and Bill Maher and have extensively and consistently articulated their opposition to the Trump "presidency." Max Boot, still a fiscal conservative, but now a social-liberal, wrote this for the New York Times last May:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/12/opinion/when-will-republicans-stand-up-to-trump.html
"If the controversy over the firing of James Comey, the F.B.I. director, has done anything, it has confirmed my decision on Nov. 9 to leave the Republican Party after a lifetime as a loyal member."
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So, yes, some of the advisory board are conservatives, and on most issues, I obviously disagree vehemently with them. But these particular cons are not "party before country" ideologues. This Russian situation actually demands a bipartisan initiative, since it's a stubborn bloc of Republicans who turn a deaf ear to this crisis. There is a crying need for certain members of the GOP to speak out against the Trump supporters in their party.
It seems to be a case of "strange bedfellows," but if that's what it takes to save the country from complete destruction by Trump, so be it. Once we're rid of this common enemy, we can go back to fighting conservatives on the pressing issues such as single-payer healthcare, women's rights, and climate change, etc.
ancianita
(36,238 posts)Everyone here wants to go for this message because Morgan Freeman has played god in a film??
Think about how most people thought the Russia Internet insurgency was pretty far fetched when it was first brought to public attention.
Now we can find common cause with AEI people who are of the globalist class, right or wrong? Just chuck their pasts while this whole "Russia as enemy" frame plays out?
The more I think about it the more skeptical I get.
"For now" is a common front that right wing tanks hope will get them over.
I can't look at it working "for now."
I have to look at the whole history of right wingers in the AEI think tank parent. Do you remember the groups attacks here of Ayaan Hirsi Ali's association with AEI? I read all her books, and I can assure everyone that she was never an opportunist con.
You can trust this video at face value if you choose.
You say, "for now," but this video's motive, to me, isn't about "saving the country from complete destruction by Trump..."
It's about saving the complete destruction of the austerity globalists' credibility in American politics at all.
Globalists and their congressional henchmen have allied with Russian mafia style capitalism, Kochs and the rest, when they think it has helped them take control of the land base of the West's largest democracy.
You don't think AEI doesn't curry their favor and wealth? I do.
As for Americans in general, now that they've seen the election mess Putin's propaganda machine contributed to, I don't think that most Republicans see Putin's Kremlin as even a potential future American ally. But globalists do. If they can rewrite the history of which "side" they were on, they would, even as they continue to do business with a country hostile to the West.
Today, the AEI knows that Republican Americans have no choice but to doubt the viability of institutions supported by the wealthy Republican class.
The timing of this video shows a newfound fear from that class. Over a year in on the FBI's following the money.
The more I think about who is backing this video -- especially, given the legal, international precedents that this massive criminal investigation on this poser president's posse of Russian colluders (including major GOP players) will establish for future governance in this country -- the more the video reveals to me the wealthy class's concession to the nation's loss of confidence over a major right wing party's credibility as a patriotic American party.
The attendant neonazi noise in America isn't just coincidence, either.
I don't think I'm overthinking this. It wasn't that long ago that the reality we're in now wasn't thought to even be likely.
Putting Morgan Freeman's best god face (and script) before us doesn't make me trust the motives of this advisory board's parent think tank. This advisory board is being paid to prop two party viability after the parent org's beloved GOP is shown before the world to be a dupe of a hostile foreign power.
PR is sophisticated. Celebrities are good people who want to help what they think are good causes. I love Morgan Freeman. But too many times we've seen well meaning celebrities misguidedly 'help' -- just not the way they believe they are. I'm sure AEI knows we trust Morgan Freeman -- no one's more convincing than "god" -- so we'll feel good about the soul of this right wing think tank.
AEI history is bigger than "for now," and so I think this video is sincere, vague, mollifying in its attempt to keep the AEI maintaining globalist trust and endowments in a country that is churning to return its government to its Constitutional, democratic structure, and away from a Russian mafia style corporate one.
When you say, "Once we're rid of this common enemy, we can go back to fighting conservatives on the pressing issues such as single-payer healthcare, women's rights, and climate change, etc." then I realize now just how this globalist war of attrition is played, whether that war exhausts us through the Obamacare war, the neonazi white supremacist war, the war on women, immigrants, fossil v. green energy, or on each other.
I've just decided to not trust or support this untimely, scripted admission of "war." The AEI house is putting its money on pandering, at best; propagandizing, at worst.
Thank you for helping me consider this further. I do understand your hope that this contributes to what's best for us all. I hope that happens.
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)attention to the video than if they just clammed up.
Comrade Casino, the republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief, must be miffed.
dae
(3,396 posts)Goonch
(3,623 posts)DFW
(54,506 posts)The Tsar of all the Russias is frightened by an uppity "chorny?"
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)NBachers
(17,191 posts)Morgan Freeman the movie president, makes a better president than Donald Trump the official president.
Enoki33
(1,589 posts)arthritisR_US
(7,303 posts)madokie
(51,076 posts)We are at war and at the present time we're losing
rockfordfile
(8,709 posts)eleny
(46,166 posts)Let me hold my side.
marieo1
(1,402 posts)Morgan Freeman has been around for long time and has witnessed exactly what the Russians have been doing to our country and other countries that are Russia's neighbors. Morgan Freeman wouldn't have made a video like this if he wasn't concerned about their aggressiveness. More power to Morgan Freeman. I trust him a lot more than DJT and his ilk!!
NBachers
(17,191 posts)leftofcool
(19,460 posts)applegrove
(118,925 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,151 posts)for them, he supported America.
Freethinker65
(10,116 posts)The more people that view the video, the better. I thought Russia would have been smarter than that.
uponit7771
(90,371 posts)BumRushDaShow
(130,043 posts)and they were discussing their involvement in the CIR. There is some serious heft going on behind the scenes to push the Russia interference probes forward.
blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)malaise
(269,328 posts)Nice
Gothmog
(145,965 posts)all american girl
(1,788 posts)dalton99a
(81,708 posts)paleotn
(18,015 posts)when Putie is pissed at you. Hit a nerve, Morgan did.
SunSeeker
(51,811 posts)bdamomma
(63,974 posts)is the spokesperson hitting a nerve????? seems plausible to me, Putin put the wheels in motion to SCREW the US, and got trump to win. And we have never been so divided.
Again he's an ex KGB'er agent, they do not play.
byronius
(7,413 posts)I believe anything that voice says instinctively. Helps that he's also got the facts on his side.
blue-wave
(4,375 posts)I don't give a rat's ass about anything coming from the Kremlin. Keep on Keepin' on Mr. Freeman!!!!
oasis
(49,490 posts)Nitram
(22,971 posts)Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)charlyvi
(6,537 posts)is to tell them not to. This is the fundamental flaw in Russia's attitude towards us; they are used to people who obey. We do not obey.