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ProfessorPlum

(11,284 posts)
Wed Sep 20, 2017, 04:08 PM Sep 2017

I find it amazing that there might still be enough rule of law left in this country

that Trump might actually be held accountable for something in his long, miserable life.

Strange to see the machinery of a once-functional legal system actually working and threatening the elite in power. This must have been what Watergate felt like.

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I find it amazing that there might still be enough rule of law left in this country (Original Post) ProfessorPlum Sep 2017 OP
well, if it comes down to the republicans in congress holding him accountable... spanone Sep 2017 #1
Watergate felt like a rush of adrenalin. This does not. Yet, anyway. DFW Sep 2017 #2
Yup, there are no longer enough straight laced republicans. Doreen Sep 2017 #5
An extinct species DFW Sep 2017 #6
This does feel like Watergate, but marylandblue Sep 2017 #3
I was SHOCKED when Mueller was appointed get the red out Sep 2017 #4
Actually, this disaster has been a lesson in our nation's structural resilience. Hortensis Sep 2017 #7

spanone

(135,951 posts)
1. well, if it comes down to the republicans in congress holding him accountable...
Wed Sep 20, 2017, 04:09 PM
Sep 2017

i doubt it will happen

DFW

(54,520 posts)
2. Watergate felt like a rush of adrenalin. This does not. Yet, anyway.
Wed Sep 20, 2017, 04:19 PM
Sep 2017

At first, we all thought--Nixon, so what else is new? But then, the burglars got hauled before a judge, and the kind of people showed up at their legal proceedings that normally do not show up at arraignments for second rate burglars. Connections started to be made, and things got interesting fast. Nixon started getting desperate, and there were still enough straight-laced Republicans in Congress that he took a head count and knew he would not survive a trial that would follow a sure impeachment. Even Barry Goldwater said, "The President must resign!"

These days, it's more like Republican CYA, and what can they do to preserve their power and money at all costs. If they fear losing their majorities in the House and Senate, they will remove Trump for the high crime and/or misdemeanor of littering. If they do not fear their Congressional majorities, Trump could shoot Hillary, Melania and a boy scout in the head on live TV and they wouldn't so much as censure him.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
3. This does feel like Watergate, but
Wed Sep 20, 2017, 04:20 PM
Sep 2017

it also feels like Iran Contra. In one case the rule of law won, in the other it didn't. We don't know which one way we will go yet.

get the red out

(13,468 posts)
4. I was SHOCKED when Mueller was appointed
Wed Sep 20, 2017, 04:25 PM
Sep 2017

I figured we were totally screwed, the Presidency given to a traitor, and nobody had dare better say a thing about it. I think so damned little of just in this country that I am still amazed he was appointed and still half expect only a few people like Manafort to end up getting punished for it. I find it hard to believe that a rich bastard like Trump could be permitted to face consequences.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
7. Actually, this disaster has been a lesson in our nation's structural resilience.
Wed Sep 20, 2017, 04:31 PM
Sep 2017

Rump not only may be held accountable (if the nation wants), but, far, far more important, the goals of the Koch alliance and others like them are continually being thwarted by a system laws they hold in even more contempt than Rump does (because they are very aware they exist).

Most of these laws, after all, were passed to protect the nation from people like them, and they're not finding dismantling them all that easy. Plus, many groups are monitoring and slapping them with lawsuits as soon as their termites within the government start breaking the various laws constraining them, including Obama's Protect Democracy.

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