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Dispel the lie once and for all, America is not Center-Right. Its Progressive (Original Post) egbertowillies Nov 2017 OP
I don't see how this is even debatable anymore. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #1
From my personal perspective the U.S.A. sure as hell is a center-right nation. hunter Nov 2017 #2
"America" is most definitely right of center if not fully right wing loyalsister Nov 2017 #3
Semantics maxsolomon Nov 2017 #4
Language use is a reflection of culture loyalsister Nov 2017 #5
so, call ourselves United States of Americans? maxsolomon Nov 2017 #6
US citizens loyalsister Nov 2017 #7
Your own language disproves your case muriel_volestrangler Nov 2017 #8
Yeah way more since Trump...just a casualty of the 'revolution'. Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #10
It is center left...and all the determination that it just isn't so won't change that...look to the Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #9

hunter

(38,354 posts)
2. From my personal perspective the U.S.A. sure as hell is a center-right nation.
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 06:53 PM
Nov 2017

I live in the center-right and very successful state of California, one of the world's great economic powers.

By my own leftist and radical environmentalist measures Jerry Brown and Barrack Obama are both center-right "conservative" politicians in the traditional meanings of the word. Yet I enthusiastically support them both, as I supported Hillary Clinton. They are very competent leaders. I am fiercely Democratic. This U.S.A. needs competent leadership.

Reagan, Bush One, Bush Two, and Trump achieved their position as tools, as easily manipulated puppets.

You've been fooled by the U.S.A. Republican Party. It's leaders are not left or right, they are little more than organized criminals and grifters, they are cogs in a kleptocracy. No wonder they caught Putin's attention.

The people who support these Republican "leaders" are their prey. All those rubes terrified some city-slicker was going to sell them the Brooklyn Bridge, a fake Rolex, or resurface their roads, roofs and driveways with sand and toxic used motor oil, they voted for Trump. Because Trump wasn't a black guy or a scary smart woman, or something. Go figure...

Issues like universal healthcare and literacy, infrastructure maintenance and improvements, environmental protections, worker protections, anti-corruption laws and enforcement, generous immigration policies, etc., are not politically "left" or "right," they're just good business.






loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
3. "America" is most definitely right of center if not fully right wing
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 07:27 PM
Nov 2017

There are dozens of countries on American continents. The idea of "American exceptionalism" where only US citizens are American is not the least bit progressive.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
5. Language use is a reflection of culture
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 10:40 PM
Nov 2017

Teddy Roosevelt sold the idea of true Americans in all of his racist, xenophobic glory. The use persists, and the context of it's origin is important because where we are now is a natural result of US arrogance.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
7. US citizens
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 08:10 PM
Nov 2017

USAers...stick with Americans if you want. I'm just saying that the arrogance and how it came to be part of the lexicon matters.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,421 posts)
8. Your own language disproves your case
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 03:49 AM
Nov 2017

You talk about the middle class, but not the poor, the disadvantaged, the unemployed, or the 'working' or 'lower' classes. No mention of minorities. Concentrating on the middle class is centrist, or centre-right.

The USA still has people without healthcare, and elected a spiteful conman who wanted to increase that number, and a Congress to back him on it. They elected a Congress that wanted to slash taxes on the rich. Internationally, this does not look progressive.

Demsrule86

(68,861 posts)
10. Yeah way more since Trump...just a casualty of the 'revolution'.
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 04:04 AM
Nov 2017

I don't know how Stein voters or those who didn't vote for Sec. Clinton can sleep at night.

Demsrule86

(68,861 posts)
9. It is center left...and all the determination that it just isn't so won't change that...look to the
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 04:03 AM
Nov 2017

states. Conservatives hold the majority of governorships and legislatures...statewide races. And I for one will not lose this election In a McGovern style loss because we put up the wrong candidate. There are candidates who can appeal to both liberals and moderates.

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