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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDonna Brazile now says the primaries weren't rigged, and NO internal corruption at the DNC that
favored Clinton
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/11/donna-brazile-and-the-latest-great-hillary-scandal/
From what I have observed there was one person who was conspicuously absent from jumping on top of this and saying that "the election was rigged"
That was Bernie Sanders
Ironically, there were some prominent Democrats who were all too willing to accept the distortion.
Howard Dean only said he hoped the allegations were false, and they turned out to be just that.
applegrove
(118,925 posts)still_one
(92,526 posts)this, it would be naïve to think that no one would weigh in on this, one way or another
wasupaloopa
(4,516 posts)caught up in this.
still_one
(92,526 posts)Donna Brazile's excerpts from Politico, those who did not believe it, and those who just didn't know.
In other words, when a prominent Democrat came out and made serious accusations about the party, EVERYONE is going to get caught up in this.
I will edit my post above to make it clear what I meant. Thanks
applegrove
(118,925 posts)wasupaloopa
(4,516 posts)learn what her supporters already know it's "never mind."
still_one
(92,526 posts)naïve to think that people wouldn't weigh in on this one way or another.
Even Howard Dean commented that he hoped the accusations were not true, so he wasn't sure.
wasupaloopa
(4,516 posts)many on our side are ready to buy into anti Hillary memes and that is why we lost the election. You just add to the negative narrative when you do that. Repeated often enough the lie becomes the truth.
Hillary has such huge negatives but she deserves none of it. Just yesterday I read here that Hillary was once a republican as was Warren.
Her biography has been out there for eons. She was 16 and not even into politics and was a Goldwater girl because it was a popular thing to do. That must have been posted here a hundred times during the primary.
Use some critical thinking and you won't be caught up in so much bull shit.
No to me it is not understandable.
still_one
(92,526 posts)so this really isn't surprising, and when you have Donna Brazile, who was a vocal supporter of Hillary come out like this, it isn't surpriseing that some would be misled.
As I mentioned previously, when Comey released the letter to the republicans in Congress 11 days before the election, the media reported that "the email investigation had been reopened". That was a LIE, but that LIE was blasted over the airwaves and print media for days, and there is no doubt significantly contributed to what happened in 2016
wasupaloopa
(4,516 posts)average in having incite into those things. I just can't discount all the anti Hillary things I read on here over the last two years.
And I blame all of them for giving us Trump. We should all have known better. Hillary's life was an open book.
still_one
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wasupaloopa
(4,516 posts)were not effected by it. What is it that we have that so many hadn't? I think it is because we don't want to just follow the herd.
We want to make up our own minds. We all had the same input and came up with different opinions. Some of us were right.
If there were more of us and less of them Trump would not be president.
Emmanuel Kant said it best I think in his answer to the question "what is enlightnment."
Kant answers the question in the first sentence of the essay: "Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-incurred immaturity." He argues that the immaturity is self-inflicted not from a lack of understanding, but from the lack of courage to use one's reason, intellect, and wisdom without the guidance of another. He exclaims that the motto of enlightenment is "Sapere aude"! Dare to be wise!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Answering_the_Question:_What_is_Enlightenment%3F
StevieM
(10,500 posts)completely turn the race on its head.
Had it not been for his intervention she would have won decisively. Had it not been for his bogus investigation, and especially his July press conference, she would have won in a landslide.
Putin had nothing on our own FBI. The completely dominated the election, from start to finish.
still_one
(92,526 posts)applegrove
(118,925 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)democratisphere
(17,235 posts)Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)Two weeks prior, same as Comey.
Brilliant timing
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)still_one
(92,526 posts)fearmongering are a disgrace.
Hopefully, the people of Virginia will see through this.
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)emulatorloo
(44,274 posts)Then crawl in a hole and never show her face again. Very empathetic to Donna yesterday. Not any more.
Initech
(100,149 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,672 posts)The entire focus of the Dems Party should be to defeat the GOP! Period. This BS will happen again and again and if you put any thought or energy into it than you are promoting the GOP propaganda. STOP! Stay FOCUSED! Distractions, diversions, division is their goal. Do not aid the enemy.
still_one
(92,526 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,672 posts)of the discourse and not encourage it if you can. My goal is to defeat the GOP and not the Dems.
chillfactor
(7,590 posts)she has done severe damage to the Democratic Party. I really despise her.
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