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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTo the people who are gloating about the Donna Brazile thing...
Yes, a lot of us did have a favorable opinion of her before this. That's because, for many years she was a loyal Democrat, and in doing so she had earned trust. But sometimes people that you trust end up being deceitful, and yes that sucks. So gloat away.
The flip side of that is, of course, that the people who are giddy about what Donna Brazile said are the same ones who up to that moment bashed her as a corporatist neoliberal etc, and now herald her as a truth-teller. And that also makes sense. For people who support the Democratic party, when a previously loyal Dem turns, they are disappointed, whereas for people who oppose the Democratic party, a turn like this is something to be celebrated.
None of that matters very much, though, because it took less than a day for what she said to be conclusively proven wrong. The supposed "rigging" of the primaries that Trump likes to tweet about is just as much of a nonsensical conspiracy theory as it ever was. The nomination went to the candidate chosen, by a large margin, by the voters, plain and simple.
The only real question here is what happened to make Donna Brazile so angry with her former colleagues that she would in effect commit career suicide and also hand the GOP a talking point, even though she must have known full well that what she wrote would be debunked in short order. Yeah, maybe she's just trying to sell books (and in that she will likely succeed), but it really seems to me like there must be something more that happened for her to turn on so many people that she had long relationships with like this.
itsrobert
(14,157 posts)It's real. Follow the money.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)BTW, "dark money", by definition, is money that can't be followed.
itsrobert
(14,157 posts)Money funneled through her publisher most likely. She just doesn't realize it.
Squinch
(51,091 posts)So it would seem that IS relevant.
Tatiana
(14,167 posts)And that's not cool. That deserves the strongest, most public repudiation from the most popular leader in our party.
I'm looking at you Obama.....
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)And she diesn't want to be left behind as a centrist Clintonite.
DURHAM D
(32,619 posts)marylandblue
(12,344 posts)There was still that perception of her. Not anymore.
Demsrule86
(68,837 posts)minority of Democrats are what you describe...Sen. Clinton whom you say is a centrist (not true) won the nomination in 16 with a clear majority. This refutes your claims.
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)Between left and far left, on DU and are surprised when we see the same thing playing out at the highest levels of the Democratic Party?
Kirk Lover
(3,608 posts)Response to marylandblue (Reply #4)
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Glorfindel
(9,750 posts)I chalk her actions up to red-eyed, slavering greed and nothing else. I hope she enjoys her 15 minutes of back-stabbing notoriety. She will go down in history along with Z*ll M*ller of Georgia and that repulsive Justice creep from West Virginia as a modern-day Brutus, licking the blood from her dagger.
Raastan
(266 posts)samnsara
(17,667 posts)...think shes too smart for that. something got under her skin...pretty damned bad. And too bad. I doubt she will be heard from again unless its to explain and apologize.
Guilded Lilly
(5,591 posts)a tasty little snack of disingenuous diversionary pie at the worst possible time. It was, in THIS one womans opinion, a betrayal.
Besides the obvious satisfaction that The Stupid and The Cretin will get from this and NEVER let it go...Im DONE with the fucking manipulations and ugliness constantly shoved upon Clinton. All the damned time, every day, every way.
This was, in my eyes, a jagoff move.
Totally.
And Warren?
Yeah, she shoved her foot into the jagoff circle, too.
And we live breathe and suffer the Cretin and his soulless party nightmare EVERY waking hour of our lives.
We dont need this total crap.
mountain grammy
(26,676 posts)There are issues that should be addressed.. We can be adults and discuss it or we can start spreading the hate of Independents to "impure" Democrats. That should work out well for us.
Has it ever occurred to anyone here that the critics care as much about Democratic victories as the loyal, true blue Democrats who refuse to accept or believe any criticism at all?
I guess, to be on DU will now mean to hate on Warren.. who will be the next victim?
MaryMagdaline
(6,859 posts)Interesting that when HRC finally did get control of the DNC after the nomination, she fired DWS and elevated Donna Brazile. DWS has said nothing.
comradebillyboy
(10,192 posts)she is still a loyal Democrat.