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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBTW, Donna B claims plenary power to replace the candidates. She doesn't have that power.
First things first: Clinton and Trump would have to personally choose to relinquish the nomination to lose it.
Nobody can force them to do so only the nominees can make the decision to give up their position as their partys presidential candidate, according to Elaine Kamarck, a senior fellow in governance studies at the Brookings Institution. (Of course, a candidate could also die, forcing the parties onto the same track as if he or she had dropped out.)
https://www.vox.com/2016/9/12/12887632/if-presidential-nominee-drops-out
msongs
(67,505 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)for the General election.
The DNC chair takes a much more hands off role after that point.
Brazile came on after HRC was confirmed, and was a temporary fill at that.
Perhaps they assumed that since she ran Gore's campaign she would at least remember how that whole thing worked.
Apparently she didn't. Or she is lying.
joet67
(624 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,719 posts)BTW, Donna B claims plenary power to replace the candidates. She doesn't have that power.
joet67
(624 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,719 posts)Former Democratic National Committee head Donna Brazile writes in a new book that she seriously contemplated replacing Hillary Clinton as the partys 2016 presidential nominee with then-Vice President Biden in the aftermath of Clintons fainting spell, in part because Clintons campaign was anemic and had taken on the odor of failure.
In an explosive new memoir, Brazile details widespread dysfunction and dissension throughout the Democratic Party, including secret deliberations over using her powers as interim DNC chair to initiate the process of removing Clinton and running mate Sen. Tim Kaine (Va.) from the ticket after Clintons Sept. 11, 2016, collapse in New York City.
Brazile writes that she considered a dozen combinations to replace the nominees and settled on Biden and Sen. Cory Booker (N.J.), the duo she felt most certain would win over enough working-class voters to defeat Republican Donald Trump. But then, she writes, I thought of Hillary, and all the women in the country who were so proud of and excited about her. I could not do this."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/brazile-i-considered-replacing-clinton-with-biden-as-2016-democratic-nominee/2017/11/04/f0b75418-bf4c-11e7-97d9-bdab5a0ab381_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_donna-204pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.2f84f02e0afc
onenote
(42,860 posts)Last edited Sat Nov 4, 2017, 07:56 PM - Edit history (1)
In fact, the DNC Charter and By-Laws are essentially silent on the question of vacancies. The issue is addressed in one provision of the parties nominating rules, which reads as follows:
G. Filling a Vacancy on the National Ticket: In the event of death, resignation or disability of a nominee of the Party for President or Vice President after the adjournment of the National Convention, the National Chairperson of the Democratic National Committee shall confer with the Democratic leadership of the United States Congress and the Democratic Governors Association and shall report to the Democratic National Committee, which is authorized to fill the vacancy or vacancies.
There is nothing in the rules that addresses who can decide that a candidate who hasn't died or resigned is "disabled" thus creating a vacancy. In any event, it is up to a lot of people other than Donna Brazile to decide whether a vacancy exists and how to fill it.
joet67
(624 posts)Or were you just being hysterical?
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,719 posts)MUAH
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ismnotwasm
(42,030 posts)In United States constitutional law, plenary power is a power that has been granted to a body, or person, in absolute terms, with no review of, or limitations upon the exercise of that power.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,719 posts)BTW, "hysterical" is sexist language and pejorative. Plenary refers to the power Ms. Brazile arrogated to herself.
joet67
(624 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,719 posts)I didn't make up anything, Joe.
Or were you just being hysterical?
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029796358#post6
-Joe
Joe, what part of Donna Brazile arrogated to herself plenary, i.e. absolute power to replace the Democratic candidates for president and vice president, and what part of hysterical is sexist, misogynistic and deplorable language don't you understand ?
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Instead of calling people who are liars.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,719 posts)Do you think he should apologize for calling me/strongly suggesting I'm a liar ?
Also, do you think he should apologize to the female members of this board for calling someone hysterical which is a loaded, misogynistic, and sexist word ?
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)I recall that you are the one who wasn't clear on the facts surrounding this situation both times.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Not betting on it....
lapucelle
(18,414 posts)during the period when Brazile was considering using her powers to replace the nominee and her running mate. It's in the book.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)when she called him to tell her of her "discovery" of what turned out to be nothing, and happily accept her "promise" to report back to him with other "nefarious" activities she might uncover.