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wt1531

(424 posts) Sat Nov 4, 2017, 04:17 PM Nov 2017

The President should not have the power to pardon to obstruct justice

And he as hell should not have the power to fire FBI directors or Special counsels in cases where he is potentially a direct target of their investigation for criminal conduct. This is a glaring weakness in the system where the suspect gets the power to fire the police because they are looking at him too closely. This is a joke and an honest congress would fix this loophole and soon.

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The President should not have the power to pardon to obstruct justice (Original Post) wt1531 Nov 2017 OP

The fix is impeachment. n/t PoliticAverse Nov 2017 #1

The Founding Fathers never envisioned this FakeNoose Nov 2017 #2

He has the power, period, but he can also commit a separate crime by doing so. tableturner Nov 2017 #3

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)

1. The fix is impeachment. n/t

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Sat Nov 4, 2017, 04:26 PM

Nov 2017

FakeNoose

(32,917 posts)

2. The Founding Fathers never envisioned this

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Sat Nov 4, 2017, 04:35 PM

Nov 2017

Jefferson, Adams, Monroe, and Washington must all be turning over in their graves.

I'm sure we're going to rewrite the 25th Amentment and maybe others, after this is over with.

tableturner

(1,686 posts)

3. He has the power, period, but he can also commit a separate crime by doing so.

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Sat Nov 4, 2017, 05:44 PM

Nov 2017

The crime would be obstruction of justice, not an illegal pardon. The pardon would only be the vehicle used to obstruct justice.

If a president sold a pardon for one million dollars, he would be guilty of bribery, and the pardon would only be the vehicle used to commit bribery.

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