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emulatorloo

(44,276 posts)
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 06:59 PM Nov 2017

WAPO: Donna Brazile: I considered replacing Clinton with Biden as 2016 Democratic nominee

Donna's book sounds like a hot mess.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/brazile-i-considered-replacing-clinton-with-biden-as-2016-democratic-nominee/2017/11/04/f0b75418-bf4c-11e7-97d9-bdab5a0ab381_story.html

Former Democratic National Committee head Donna Brazile writes in a new book that she seriously contemplated replacing Hillary Clinton as the party’s 2016 presidential nominee with then-Vice President Biden in the aftermath of Clinton’s fainting spell, in part because Clinton’s campaign was “anemic” and had taken on “the odor of failure.”

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Brazile writes that she was haunted by the still-unsolved murder of DNC data staffer Seth Rich and feared for her own life, shutting the blinds to her office window so snipers could not see her and installing surveillance cameras at her home. She wonders whether Russians had placed a listening device in plants in the DNC executive suite.

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Brazile describes in wrenching detail Clinton’s bout with pneumonia. On Sept. 9, she saw the nominee backstage at a Manhattan gala and she seemed “wobbly on her feet” and had a “rattled cough.” Brazile recommended Clinton see an acupuncturist. Two days later, Clinton collapsed as she left a Sept. 11 memorial service at Ground Zero in New York. Brazile blasts the campaign’s initial efforts to shroud details of her health as “shameful.”

Whenever Brazile got frustrated with Clinton’s aides, she writes, she would remind them that the DNC charter empowered her to initiate the replacement of the nominee. If a nominee became disabled, she explains, the party chair would oversee a complicated process of filling the vacancy that would include a meeting of the full DNC.

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WAPO: Donna Brazile: I considered replacing Clinton with Biden as 2016 Democratic nominee (Original Post) emulatorloo Nov 2017 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author PJMcK Nov 2017 #1
She cray. She listen to Alex Jones?? She belong at JPR. boston bean Nov 2017 #2
Brazile felt "slighted" emulatorloo Nov 2017 #7
Bashing democrats is not allowed here so.. Pugster Nov 2017 #3
Really, Donna Brazile is the one who exclusively decides who should be the nominee? Wonder who still_one Nov 2017 #4
So it was Brazile who actually took over the DNC lapucelle Nov 2017 #5
I know, right? emulatorloo Nov 2017 #8
Is that in the spirit of a free and fair election? lapucelle Nov 2017 #9
Not exactly: guillaumeb Nov 2017 #10
So with six weeks left before election day, lapucelle Nov 2017 #12
I think the entire process from campaigning for the nomination guillaumeb Nov 2017 #27
Walking pneumonia is not a "disability" so kind of a wild threat. Weird thing to hold over people's emulatorloo Nov 2017 #14
I see nothing in the DNC Charter that says anything about replacing the candidate onenote Nov 2017 #16
"Whenever Brazile got frustrated with Clinton's aides........" R B Garr Nov 2017 #18
Brazile threatened to replace the TICKET. lapucelle Nov 2017 #26
That is Trump level delusion and narcissism. R B Garr Nov 2017 #29
Who was Donna working for then and now? delisen Nov 2017 #11
+1, Wow, this is getting scary. These people are nasty. nt R B Garr Nov 2017 #21
The book is published by "Hachette Books"... FarCenter Nov 2017 #28
I considered replacing Trump with Franken greeny2323 Nov 2017 #6
This is getting stranger and stranger. (eom) StevieM Nov 2017 #13
"Was haunted by the still-unsolved murder of DNC data staffer Seth Rich and feared for her life" Saboburns Nov 2017 #15
OH, you've got to be on to something. When you start seeing those kind R B Garr Nov 2017 #20
Regurgitating ALL the Rethug talking points. Seth Rich is a nasty "tell." chimpymustgo Nov 2017 #22
I'm with you there NastyRiffraff Nov 2017 #24
I considered replacing Donna Brazille with the ground squirrel that lives in my tree. milestogo Nov 2017 #17
There is an internal coup taking place in our party Puzzledtraveller Nov 2017 #19
Does she need the money that badly? bitterross Nov 2017 #23
DONNA B IS A LIAR trueblue2007 Nov 2017 #25

Response to emulatorloo (Original post)

emulatorloo

(44,276 posts)
7. Brazile felt "slighted"
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 07:12 PM
Nov 2017

Brazile opens her book by describing the painful days following Clinton’s defeat. She received calls of gratitude from party leaders but still felt slighted.

“I never heard from Hillary,” she writes. “I knew what I wanted to say to her and it was: I have nothing but respect for you being so brave and classy considering everything that went on. But in the weeks after the loss, every time I checked my phone thinking I might have missed her call, it wasn’t her.”

Finally, in February 2017, Clinton rang.

“This was chitchat, like I was talking to someone I didn’t know,” Brazile writes. “I know Hillary. I know she was being as sincere as possible, but I wanted something more from her.”

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Brazile "felt slighted"? After attempting to replace Clinton/Kaine w Biden/Booker because she had walking pneumonia? Ok, sure..

still_one

(92,535 posts)
4. Really, Donna Brazile is the one who exclusively decides who should be the nominee? Wonder who
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 07:08 PM
Nov 2017

will buy her book, I sure won't

lapucelle

(18,417 posts)
5. So it was Brazile who actually took over the DNC
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 07:11 PM
Nov 2017

and then threatened to replace the choice of 16,000,000 voters because the nominee had pneumonia?

lapucelle

(18,417 posts)
9. Is that in the spirit of a free and fair election?
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 07:15 PM
Nov 2017

So with everything else going on, our nominee had to deal with crappy threats from the DNC interim chair as well?

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
10. Not exactly:
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 07:22 PM
Nov 2017

Whenever Brazile got frustrated with Clinton’s aides, she writes, she would remind them that the DNC charter empowered her to initiate the replacement of the nominee

lapucelle

(18,417 posts)
12. So with six weeks left before election day,
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 07:30 PM
Nov 2017

the interim chair would "remind" the nominee's aides that she could blow up the process by "initiating the replacement" of the candidate. How is that not a threat?

Let's play the double standard game:

Imagine if BS had won the nomination, and a DNC chair had given him the same "reminder" to keep him or his aides in line. Would that have been a threat?

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
27. I think the entire process from campaigning for the nomination
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 09:29 PM
Nov 2017

until this latest scenario is bizarre.

emulatorloo

(44,276 posts)
14. Walking pneumonia is not a "disability" so kind of a wild threat. Weird thing to hold over people's
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 07:37 PM
Nov 2017

heads just because you find them "frustrating." Of course YMMV

onenote

(42,870 posts)
16. I see nothing in the DNC Charter that says anything about replacing the candidate
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 07:58 PM
Nov 2017

The rules governing the nominating process (separate from the charter) discuss the process for filling a vacancy in the ticket caused by death, resignation, or disability. It doesn't go into any detail about how the process is initiated, but it is clear that the role of the Chairperson is subordinate to that of the DNC.

G. Filling a Vacancy on the National Ticket: In the event of death, resignation or disability of a nominee of the Party for President or Vice President after the adjournment of the National Convention, the National Chairperson of the Democratic National Committee shall confer with the Democratic leadership of the United States Congress and the Democratic Governors Association and shall report to the Democratic National Committee, which is authorized to fill the vacancy or vacancies.

There was no way that Brazile had the sway to convince the party establishment to push out Clinton against her will. Donna has a highly over-inflated sense of her own importance.

R B Garr

(17,020 posts)
18. "Whenever Brazile got frustrated with Clinton's aides........"
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 08:05 PM
Nov 2017

Whenever?! So she just went around reminding people she could replace Clinton WHENEVER...?

LOL, this gets more and more bizarre.

lapucelle

(18,417 posts)
26. Brazile threatened to replace the TICKET.
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 08:40 PM
Nov 2017

Brazile picked someone different as her preferred running mate. Maybe Donna peeked at Tim's medical record and discovered that he once had pneumonia too!

On the other hand, it could have been Kaine's nasty disposition that set Donna off. He does have a reputation for being a frustrating troublemaker .

R B Garr

(17,020 posts)
29. That is Trump level delusion and narcissism.
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 10:58 PM
Nov 2017

I can’t imagine what people around her were thinking.

delisen

(6,051 posts)
11. Who was Donna working for then and now?
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 07:29 PM
Nov 2017

She is clearly trying to build on the Trump campaign's charge that Clinton was sick, had no stamina.

So now they have a democratic insider claiming she was about to call a major meeting of the DNC to replace Clinton as candidate.

We know that was never going to happen-but here is Brazile using Trump's talking points-was she and Biden planning a DNC coup? Seems doubtful.

Is Weaver trying to knock Biden out of the 2020 race?

Is Putin still trying to destroy Clinton? or destroy the Democratic Party?

This book is not an accident. Who set up the deal with the publisher? Who was the ghost writer?

Why this particular publisher?

Plot thickens.


 

greeny2323

(590 posts)
6. I considered replacing Trump with Franken
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 07:12 PM
Nov 2017

Then I looked up the rules, and lo and behold, I had no such power.

Saboburns

(2,807 posts)
15. "Was haunted by the still-unsolved murder of DNC data staffer Seth Rich and feared for her life"
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 07:57 PM
Nov 2017

Are you fucking kidding me??

To me this phrase (and indeed this entire article) tells me she is either now being paid by Alt-Right money, or possibly she has been getting paid by Alt-Right money for a long damn time.

As there were 0 Democrats who thought there was anything at all in the Seth Rich death, THE ONLY PEOPLE PUSHING THIS PARTICULAR BULLSHIT STORY ARE/WERE ALT-RIGHT WINGNUT FOOLS. Donna Brazile just told on herself with this.

Folks Donna Brazile is dirty with the stink of Right Wing Money. Holy Shit. I am not prone to conspiracy theories, I don't jump to conclusions quickly nor haphazardly. But Holy Shit, this looks beyond suspicious to me. Donna Brazil's might have gotten away with it but she told on herself with this Seth Rich Bullshit.

Donna Brazil's sold out the Democratic Party.

I am sure of this.

R B Garr

(17,020 posts)
20. OH, you've got to be on to something. When you start seeing those kind
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 08:12 PM
Nov 2017

of spoon-fed buzzwords, there is some payday for it. That is totally ALT-RIGHT language. As bizarre as this gets, she does give herself away with this. The JPR nuts are all into this Seth Rich conspiracy and any conspiracy involving the Clintons and now any Democrat who doesn't repeat their notions. This is pretty scary to see now.

chimpymustgo

(12,774 posts)
22. Regurgitating ALL the Rethug talking points. Seth Rich is a nasty "tell."
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 08:16 PM
Nov 2017

Hacks: The Inside Story of the Break-ins and Breakdowns That Put Donald Trump in the White House Hardcover – November 7, 2017
by Donna Brazile (Author)
#1 Best Seller in Political Corruption & Misconduct

https://www.amazon.com/Hacks-Inside-Break-ins-Breakdowns-Donald/dp/0316478512/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1509840593&sr=1-1&keywords=donna+brazile

Publisher: Hachette Books (November 7, 2017)

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
24. I'm with you there
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 08:38 PM
Nov 2017

I was TRYING not to think that Donna was somehow in bed with some of the Right Wing, either financially or...? Okay, financially. I'm not going to read her book for many reasons, including what appears to be VERY bad writing, but what I've seen shows me a woman who is thin-skinned, paranoid, and something of a bully. Like the co-worker from hell.

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