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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNov 8th 2016 we went to the polls with big smug smiles on our DEM faces, expecting a landslide...
Nov 8th last year we went to the polls with big smug smiles on our DEM faces. We had been assured HRC would win by 90% or 89% or 70%....it would be a landslide. Our Feingold and Julie would sweep along with the President. I said we will never have to see that pig's face on tv again...he will buy an island and go dangle his feet in the water and sulk.
We were so PRE happy. I didn't even stay up to watch. AT 3AM turned the TV back on and it felt like a completely different world overnight. And it was.
Demsrule86
(68,800 posts)So not needed today...try enjoying what happened yesterday is my advice.
jodymarie aimee
(3,975 posts)We have tons of work to do to regain the 1200 seats we have lost....and we cannot get smug about one good nite. And it is an anniversary....I was pointing our where our heads were that day....I do not wish to spat with you...we are on the SAME side.
Demsrule86
(68,800 posts)work needed is to find the right candidates for the states both at state level races and house, legislature races. This is not a spat...we see a winning formula in VA...but instead of embracing it you pounce on the negative...don't get it...it is a we are doomed kind of attitude...but I am too happy today to worry about it.
Squinch
(51,087 posts)them.
JustAnotherGen
(32,035 posts)I've been in hell with Crispy.
Let us have our day, count our blessings - and PRAISE indivisible because we started on this in JANUARY of THIS year.
So - when is your next Indivisible or local Democratic or County meeting?
Who are your candidates? My district has 4 solid primary opponents - and they started in March of this year.
You have a lot of work to do - we've done the hard work, have a blue print, and know how to win. We just did it.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I think there is a fine line between smug and celebratory. Sometimes one even appears to be the other. Celebrating builds energy and enthusiasm among all.
Mayberry Machiavelli
(21,096 posts)Instead the OP is just a rehashing of a very bad night without any particular insight or reflection on how it relates to this night one year later.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)We need to accept that every election requires us to fight off attacks from both right and farther left.
Personally, I prefer them to expose themselves. Far too many good Democrats don't recognize attacks for what they are from the "we rule or we ruin" types claiming to care about the party.
Howard Dean had to dissociate himself from a group he himself founded because it drew a whole crowd of so-called "democrats" who were trying to bring down not just Hillary but other Democratic candidates. And they tried the same thing this election.
Demsrule86
(68,800 posts)dime for them...Democracy for America.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)You're in good company.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #1)
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Freddie
(9,281 posts)Last night was a good start
Mrs. Overall
(6,839 posts)On mornings like this, certain posts stick out like a sore thumb.
Old Vet
(2,001 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)A complete reversal of the story.
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lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Your story sounds exactly like Boris Epshteyn, and RNC Chair Ronna McDaniel.
"Democrats won two seats they were supposed to win. "
http://wjla.com/news/bottom-line/opinion-tuesdays-election-results-are-a-message-to-republicans-to-get-things-done
"McDaniel downplayed the victory for Democrats, saying that Virginia - and New Jersey - are blue states they were supposed to win."
https://www.newsmax.com/politics/mcdaniel-rnc-trump-gillespie/2017/11/08/id/824928/
Orrex
(63,270 posts)The important thing is to focus on the negative, because how can the Democrats be The Party Of Hope if we actually win once in a while?
No, the proper thing to do is to beat ourselves up because we had elections stolen from us a year ago. Pay no attention the current bright spot. We must obsess over how badly we were fucked over.
Concentrate on that, so that our suffocating sense of defeatism can help to cement a few more decades of Republican tyranny!
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Orrex
(63,270 posts)If you post a list of, say, top ten insulting nicknames for Trump, it's very likely that one of the first replies will be "you forgot..."
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)and bot-like.
Orrex
(63,270 posts)Spot on.
JustAnotherGen
(32,035 posts)What are you getting on about? That's purple and my district is bright red . . . but we flipped two seats on the 'county seat' council last night.
Praise us.
Ask us how it's done.
Because if we have learned anything in NJ and VA - leave nothing to chance.
Pound on those doors.
Are ONLY failure 'might' have been the low turn out last night but . . . we think in our state legislative district (Assembly) we have an extremely HIGH turn out for Democratics. We did the best we could when the Republicants are the majority here.
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)it to end in what you said. Instead it was a deliberate downer meant to throw shit at a day of joy.
We're not buying what the OP is selling.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)beaglelover
(3,504 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)titaniumsalute
(4,742 posts)When I saw Ohio, PA, and Michigan go Trump I was done. I knew it was over. I went to bed, woke up at about 2am and checked social media. The first post on FB was a friend of mine who said she can't stop crying. I then shut the phone off and rolled over back to sleep. I was numb for more than a week.
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)Once I saw an online breakdown of the Michigan vote.
It was over. Rural whites were ruining all the pivotal states.
Steve Schale's series of devastating tweets out of Florida were the indicator. He tweeted that Trump was pulling higher percentages in 47 different Florida counties than any Republican from 2000 forth. That it not going to be isolated to one state.
I expected Hillary to win narrowly but given all the polls indicating independents favored Trump I don't see how anyone thought Hillary would win in a rout. Lopsided margins are available in some states now because independents have reversed and favor our side. Not exactly complicated, although we'll be happy to pretend it's turnout or paper ballots or whatever.
We can't commend those independents. That's too vague and unsatisfying.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)I really need nor want memories of that day.
Stayed up til 2 hoping something would change. Cried most of the next day. Last night helped restore my faith in this country.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Im a runner, so I just went running for over an hour when I woke up. Ran and ran until I was too tired to think about it.
But the reality was still there. Yuck. This OP brought back bad memories.
Demsrule86
(68,800 posts)maxsolomon
(33,461 posts)I went to an Election Party feeling sick to my stomach.
I went home depressed.
seaglass
(8,173 posts)ellie
(6,929 posts)I was sick with worry because the polls were all over the place.
LuvLoogie
(7,073 posts)Did you forget to say, "I told you so" last year?
Squinch
(51,087 posts)would you need to post this today?
I must have missed your recounting of the horror on 9/11.
What's the point of this?
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beaglelover
(3,504 posts)Don't dwell on the past, look towards a bright Dem future!!!
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Im not smug today either, but I sure am encouraged!!!
moda253
(615 posts)Yonnie3
(17,516 posts)Certainly not me. I was anxious in 2016 because the polls were very close in the rust belt and I also saw new voters from the hills at my polling place. I didn't express my thoughts much on DU as I watched others shouted down as concern trolls.
I approached this election in Virginia with much more confidence and hope than I did 1016.
LeftInTX
(25,796 posts)Thanks for sharing.
i hope they go back to not voting.....
ETA: I was also concerned about the polls and didn't want to be called a concern troll.
Yonnie3
(17,516 posts)The ones I know have names like squirrel, rabbit, and snake. They live a mile behind me in trailers down a dirt lane. They don't drive. Their first vote ever was for 45. I was really startled to see them at the polls. I think they are done for now.
dawg
(10,626 posts)The Comey letter was devastating, and even though he had been forced to walk it back and admit there was no "there" there, many voters still hadn't heard the news.
The Young Turks and others had bashed our candidate non-stop for months. Idiots on the left were defecting to Stein (and even "crazy" Gary Johnson).
Nate Silver was inching up Trump's chances of victory nearly every day.
I still thought we had slightly better than even chances of winning. But I certainly wasn't smug.
Bengus81
(6,938 posts)And that makes two lost elections over it since 2000. All that should matter is who has the MOST votes. A damn vote is a vote,people in LA don't get 1.5 votes vs someone in far western Kansas.
Let's FIGHT to end this voting BS and rigged elections.
spooky3
(34,527 posts)A year ago I was very concerned about the tightening of the polls, voter suppression, and Comeys unethical behavior days before the election.
sarisataka
(18,913 posts)That many did not see. Others saw but felt the signs were not significant or overstated. Others urged caution but we're generally discounted.
That was then.
I believe a British statesman's words put yesterday's victory in perspective:
standingtall
(2,787 posts)especially after what Comey did. Yes most thought she would win and the odds were in her favor win she did win the popular vote by 3 million. Trump lost the popular vote by 6 times the margin Bush did in 2000. Call it sour grapes i you want to to,but it is evident repukes cheated to steal the electorial college for Trump which came down to about 80,000 votes between 3 states.
romana
(765 posts)I was full of joy, excitement, and optimism as I headed to the polls in my suffragette white to cast my vote for the first female president. There was nothing smug about it.
Pathwalker
(6,600 posts)smug about, unless it was someone who had a hand in that???? Frankly, I think most DUers were frantic, and more than a bit freaked out. I know I wasn't smug - I had a heart attack 3 days later.
Frankly, I find your post very insulting.
LeftInTX
(25,796 posts)I had voted in October.
Polls were all over the place.
Nate Silver's probability forecast only gave her a slight edge and it was trending down.
The odds were only 6 out of 10. No one was ever predicting Hillary would get 60% of the vote.
I'm a former mathematician.
The only thing that was keeping me sane was hope that millions of people would come to their senses and pick Hillary.
Exiting polling showed that Americans were mad and they wanted change.
I did not feel good when I heard the exit polls. This was in the late afternoon.
I also did not want to be considered a concern troll on DU, so I kept my thoughts to myself.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)And the enthusiasm must remain strong.
MFM008
(19,834 posts)expecting the worse and getting it.
Our family didnt speak hardly at all for days.
Shock.
Shock turned to anger.
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)Something turned last night...something great and full of hope. Let's build on that. COME ON 2018!
If Virginia has a great shot of taking the House Of Delegates--something NOBODY saw coming--we can take (at least) the U.S. Senate and dare I say it?--maybe the House.
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)Makes a difference
adigal
(7,581 posts)We are going to get 80 seats minimum in the House.
book_worm
(15,951 posts)Sure, I thought that HRC would probably win (and in terms of popular vote she did), but the Comey thing had me worried as I could feel the momentum deflating as the media pounded on that day after day up to the election.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)because I knew what the stakes were and too many supposedly liberal pundits had been openly hating on Hillary for months and discouraging their own voters...