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Let this sink in a little (Original Post) SHRED Nov 2017 OP
Yes! Iliyah Nov 2017 #1
And without moving to the center right!!!! eom guillaumeb Nov 2017 #2
Yes! whathehell Nov 2017 #5
Well, Our Revolution might disagree. ehrnst Nov 2017 #22
+++ EOM too.. :)) pangaia Nov 2017 #24
Exactly. They have to lie, cheat and steal jrthin Nov 2017 #3
SANITY is returning Scarsdale Nov 2017 #48
K&R!!! This is one of the reasons its easy to think they colluded because without all of uponit7771 Nov 2017 #4
Just an old school ASSWHOOPING underpants Nov 2017 #6
And another DUzzy. sarge43 Nov 2017 #9
Oh no. Geechie Nov 2017 #10
Won the old-fashioned way. lagomorph777 Nov 2017 #7
Imagine what Dems could accomplish if they'd adopt Republican ways! Honeycombe8 Nov 2017 #8
Imagine what we could do Geechie Nov 2017 #11
What does that mean? Honeycombe8 Nov 2017 #12
A circular firing squad fires into the center and each one therefore hits someone across the circle. Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2017 #19
I know what a circular firing squad is. I don't know what it means re this thread. Who is the squad? Honeycombe8 Nov 2017 #26
I was referring to #8 Geechie Nov 2017 #39
So if Republicans stopped that crap they'd lose everything. Kablooie Nov 2017 #13
I'll say it again, "All we need to do is to show up and GET THE VOTE OUT"! world wide wally Nov 2017 #14
Exactly. Showing up is way more than half the battle. SO MANY people I know sat out Neema Nov 2017 #18
You know more than 10,000 people, cause that's what it woulld take onit2day Nov 2017 #29
No I wouldnt need to know 10,000. Neema Nov 2017 #36
Plus make sure Scarsdale Nov 2017 #49
And with... jaxind Nov 2017 #15
GREATEST page! 👍🏾 BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2017 #16
And without wasting time listening to Trump supporters... mreilly Nov 2017 #17
This could read: Marthe48 Nov 2017 #20
Good one. n/t rainin Nov 2017 #31
thank you Marthe48 Nov 2017 #32
great points all! And also working against some voter suppression efforts! Ukapau Nov 2017 #21
PERFECT! NastyRiffraff Nov 2017 #23
And without the almighty White Working Class vote!!! (nt) ehrnst Nov 2017 #25
Hey, we have the best third of those Americans. :) Hortensis Nov 2017 #27
Ok. We did it despite the mythical "White Working Class" vote ehrnst Nov 2017 #28
Well, with a third of the real thing anyway. Hortensis Nov 2017 #30
Well, thats all false quakerboy Nov 2017 #33
And without lying about RandomAccess Nov 2017 #34
I would amend this to read "... in spite of ... Persondem Nov 2017 #35
Yep. dalton99a Nov 2017 #37
Democratic principles are the guiding force, once again, despite "progressive" party politics. mia Nov 2017 #38
And without the creation of astroturfed movement like the Tea Party Jon Fogerty Nov 2017 #40
I do believe The Donald CAN take credit for this! southerncrone Nov 2017 #41
Exactly. Mike Niendorff Nov 2017 #42
This will make the Republicans.... SergeStorms Nov 2017 #43
THE RIGHT WAY Angry Dragon Nov 2017 #44
PAPER BALLOTS, too. (nt) ehrnst Nov 2017 #45
K&R. Astounding, isnt it? VOX Nov 2017 #46
Shred saidsimplesimon Nov 2017 #47
Amazing! Lifelong Protester Nov 2017 #50
Republicans must be scratching their heads in bewilderment DFW Nov 2017 #51
Two words LiberalLovinLug Nov 2017 #52

jrthin

(4,842 posts)
3. Exactly. They have to lie, cheat and steal
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 04:52 PM
Nov 2017

To win elections. Without that, they would never be elected to office, and they know that.

uponit7771

(90,371 posts)
4. K&R!!! This is one of the reasons its easy to think they colluded because without all of
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 04:53 PM
Nov 2017

... those things they're a dead party

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
8. Imagine what Dems could accomplish if they'd adopt Republican ways!
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 05:15 PM
Nov 2017

We'd have a monarchy of King Obama and Queen Michelle installed in no time! We'd send Trump to the Tower. Healthcare for everyone! A power contract for Puerto Rico!

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,073 posts)
19. A circular firing squad fires into the center and each one therefore hits someone across the circle.
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 06:51 PM
Nov 2017

All fall down.

Kablooie

(18,647 posts)
13. So if Republicans stopped that crap they'd lose everything.
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 05:29 PM
Nov 2017

It's the only way they can remain alive, I guess.

Neema

(1,151 posts)
18. Exactly. Showing up is way more than half the battle. SO MANY people I know sat out
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 06:03 PM
Nov 2017

in 2016 because Hillary Clinton wasn't their ideal candidate. Look what it got us. I still want to slap each and every one of them.

You have to take baby steps sometimes. But take steps. Show up.

 

onit2day

(1,201 posts)
29. You know more than 10,000 people, cause that's what it woulld take
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 07:12 PM
Nov 2017

or are you just making an assumption you WANT to be true. Very few dems sat out the election is a better assumption because it's true. Jill stein took votes away from Hillary while Bernie convinced his supporters to vote for Hillary. And Hillary won if you count the provisional ballots and the ones Kobach stole from the voter rolls but non of that really matters now. Now we learned from our missteps and are untied in our ideals and this special election shows we are moving forward to get dems, especially progressive dems elected to office. The FDR party of the people is standing up for its ideals and the working poor and middles class to take our country back from the oligarchs out to destroy it

Neema

(1,151 posts)
36. No I wouldnt need to know 10,000.
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 10:21 PM
Nov 2017

I personally know at least ten people who refused to vote for Hillary. Two I know for sure voted for Jill Stein and the rest stayed home (despite Bernie throwing his support behind Hillary). I can’t be the only one who knows one or two or ten people who did the same. That can add up quick.

I am aware that this election was stolen from us. That’s why it’s that much more important to win by wide margins, to simply overwhelm the cheating and dirty tricks and gerrymandering.

 

mreilly

(2,120 posts)
17. And without wasting time listening to Trump supporters...
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 05:58 PM
Nov 2017

... and their pathetic little cries of outrage that 100% of everything isn't ALL ABOUT MEEEEEEE!

Marthe48

(17,122 posts)
20. This could read:
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 06:56 PM
Nov 2017

Democrats were able to flip seats in spite of alleged Republican collusion with Russia, in spite of fake news, in spite of gerrymandering, in spite of voter suppression, and in spite of dirty tricks.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
27. Hey, we have the best third of those Americans. :)
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 07:05 PM
Nov 2017

I personally expect a bunch of those others, though not all of course, to come slinking back, even if they're not admitting regret to pollsters. Notably, most or basically all really expected Hillary to win.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
30. Well, with a third of the real thing anyway.
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 07:24 PM
Nov 2017

It'd be interesting to know what percentage of DU members are "working class" whites without college educations.

Interestingly, an article in The Economist said Americans mostly define working class by lack of a college degree, rather than income or occupation as in Europe, because here most laborers with only high school educations were able to afford what was considered a middle-class lifestyle. Up until fairly recently. But in any case, bet it's a fair number.

quakerboy

(13,923 posts)
33. Well, thats all false
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 09:41 PM
Nov 2017

I mean, all those things were still happening. Democrats won in spite of the R's doing them all once again, not without them. Except maybe the Russian collusion.. They did their thing, now its in their favor to step back and let trump weaken the US, so they probably stayed out of this one

Persondem

(1,936 posts)
35. I would amend this to read "... in spite of ...
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 10:21 PM
Nov 2017

... gerrymandering and in spite of voter suppression, ..."

mia

(8,363 posts)
38. Democratic principles are the guiding force, once again, despite "progressive" party politics.
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 12:01 AM
Nov 2017

Voters can see beyond the hype and come to their own conclusions.

SergeStorms

(19,205 posts)
43. This will make the Republicans....
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 03:51 AM
Nov 2017

redouble their efforts in voter suppression, gerrymandering, and all-out cheating. You didn't honestly think the GOP would go through a period of soul searching and change their party line or their tactics to reach the voters, did you? No, they're not built like that. They're the party of few ideas, and many bludgeons. They don't back down, they don't "re-invent" themselves, they learn how to cheat bigger, better, and faster.

Democrats have a right to be somewhat giddy after the elections, but the real fight has not yet begun. There should be no resting on laurels, and if anyone thinks for one second that we've discovered the magic method to defeat Republicans from here on, you're wrong. Dead wrong! The next time the GOP will come with every dirty trick known to man, and many that aren't yet known.

Gird your loins Democrats. The fight has not yet begun. We're going to have to work our asses off just to remain in the same place, let alone turn around control of both Houses of Congress. Republicans play dirty, and it's up to US to figure out how the GOP is going to suppress voter turnout so we can be ahead of their dirty plans and SHUT THEM DOWN!

So enjoy the rest of the week. Thank a veteran for their service Saturday, and come back Monday, refreshed and ready to go. BECAUSE IF WE RELAX FOR ANY MORE TIME THAN THAT, WE'LL BE LOSING GROUND TO STEVE BANNON AND THE REST OF THE GOP DIRTY TRICKSTERS!

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
47. Shred
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 01:08 PM
Nov 2017

What are we doing to prevent the voter suppression in Cali? There are those attempting to split the state into many parts. That is what I meant by "hunting for bear". Also, I detest twitter and cringe when anyone links their activism to a platform that does not unite US.

DFW

(54,506 posts)
51. Republicans must be scratching their heads in bewilderment
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 01:57 PM
Nov 2017

According to their election strategy book, that should have been impossible.

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