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Raster

(20,998 posts)
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 06:11 PM Nov 2017

The Strange Pleasure of Seeing Carter Page Set Himself on Fire

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-strange-pleasure-of-seeing-carter-page-set-himself-on-fire

Watching Carter Page immolate himself and incriminate a half dozen of his colleagues from the Trump-Putin 2016 campaign has been a strange, almost guilty pleasure. Profoundly disconnected, socially awkward, and reeking of late-stage virginity, he gives off the creepy Uncanny Valley vibe of a rogue, possibly murderous android or of a man with a too-extensive knowledge of human taxidermy and a soundproofed van.

Legal scholars watching Page’s borderline insane interviews, reviewing his bizarre public statements and reading the wackadoodle transcripts of his testimony to congressional investigators have expressed various levels of shock. His testimony this week must have dismayed his friends in Trump world; a long, rambling, performance art piece before the House which confirmed key sections of the Steele Dossier and opened up entirely new venues for investigation.

The emerging paper trail of his forays into Russia has been amazing mosaic of comic-opera misunderstandings, grand and petty corruptions, grade-school category errors, and fundamental delusions about Putin’s kleptocracy. In short, Page is a perfect example of the ad-hoc weirdness of the Trump campaign, Trumpism’s deep, misplaced love of Putin’s Russia, and the power of magical thinking among the coterie of misfit toys Trump calls his advisors. Page is weird and wrong and in most campaigns he’d be the weirdest, wrongest dog in the pack. In Trump world, Carter Page in the middle quintile.

A bizarre fascination with Russia as an ally shaped the view of many of Trump’s foreign policy advisors like Steve Bannon, Mike Flynn, Stephen Miller, Seb Gorka and the rest of the Foreign Policy Center for Kids Who Can’t Read Good and Want To Read Good. Yes, a meaningful fraction of it is informed by an alt-rightish belief that the U.S. and Russia are white Christian allies in the global war on Islam and brown people in general, but some of it is just their natural inclination toward nationalist authoritarianism.

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The Strange Pleasure of Seeing Carter Page Set Himself on Fire (Original Post) Raster Nov 2017 OP
Thanks...a great read. Page is IMO the most colorful and fun-to-watch of these rogues. N/T Drum Nov 2017 #1
Most welcome, and indeed he is. I've watched both of his "performances"... Raster Nov 2017 #4
K&R Scurrilous Nov 2017 #2
Thank you, Carter Page NastyRiffraff Nov 2017 #3
He's such a BIZARRE individual. I can't figure out... NurseJackie Nov 2017 #5
The article hits the nail...Russia is seen as a white Christian ally in a Holy War on Islam. Fred Sanders Nov 2017 #6
"the coterie of misfit toys Trump calls his advisors" MrsCoffee Nov 2017 #7
that was pretty good... Raster Nov 2017 #9
Very enjoyable article, thanks for sharing! MrsCoffee Nov 2017 #10
Loved that line too, but the first part... Whiskeytide Nov 2017 #22
This one right here: Volaris Nov 2017 #16
That's a winner also... I think the intellect and political acumen of Steve Bannon... Raster Nov 2017 #20
That one is great! MrsCoffee Nov 2017 #23
The one Trumpster telling all and he gets immolated by everyone. What's with that? L. Coyote Nov 2017 #8
I keep thinking I'm looking at Florida governor Rick "Batshit Looney Shithouse Rat" Scott. NBachers Nov 2017 #11
Ah yes, Governor Skeletor. Raster Nov 2017 #12
Gah! The Swede! Yikes! Iggo Nov 2017 #19
A enjoyable read imo. BadGimp Nov 2017 #13
Lol, my pleasure in watching the aforementioned meltdown doesn't feel strange at all. MoonRiver Nov 2017 #14
I love watching Chris Hayes' face when he interviews him. nolabear Nov 2017 #15
man, that is a good way to put it!!! Raster Nov 2017 #17
Wow... that description is absolutely perfect! n/t Tatiana Nov 2017 #21
"...the Foreign Policy Center for Kids Who Cant Read Good and Want To Read Good." Iggo Nov 2017 #18

Raster

(20,998 posts)
4. Most welcome, and indeed he is. I've watched both of his "performances"...
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 08:14 PM
Nov 2017

...on Chris Hayes' show on MSNBC and have been absolutely flabbergasted at his seeming noncomprehension of just how serious this all is. And now the excerpts from his Congressional testimony leave me shaking my head even more so. He actually ended up verifying several points of the "dodgy dossier."

Bless his pointed little head.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
5. He's such a BIZARRE individual. I can't figure out...
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 08:20 PM
Nov 2017

... if he's ON drugs, or if he NEEDS drugs, or if his odd facial expressions are some sort of tic, or if he's just being smarmy and smug. It's like he's a 14 year old boy in a man's body. It's very disturbing.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
6. The article hits the nail...Russia is seen as a white Christian ally in a Holy War on Islam.
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 08:36 PM
Nov 2017

It is true, nothing else makes sense.

Buy Putin seems not to share a pathological hatred of Islam...but why not string Trump along since the rope is being extended?

MrsCoffee

(5,803 posts)
7. "the coterie of misfit toys Trump calls his advisors"
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 08:39 PM
Nov 2017


"the rest of the Foreign Policy Center for Kids Who Can’t Read Good and Want To Read Good"



Raster

(20,998 posts)
9. that was pretty good...
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 08:43 PM
Nov 2017

... the line that got me:

"...he gives off the creepy Uncanny Valley vibe of a rogue, possibly murderous android or of a man with a too-extensive knowledge of human taxidermy and a soundproofed van."

EEEEKKKKKK, shades of "Silence of the Lambs."

Whiskeytide

(4,463 posts)
22. Loved that line too, but the first part...
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 11:14 PM
Nov 2017

... was the funniest - “Profoundly disconnected, socially awkward, and reeking of late-stage virginity,...”. Never heard that one before.

Volaris

(10,278 posts)
16. This one right here:
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 09:39 PM
Nov 2017

'Steve Bannon, a man better suited to promoting bumfights than grand strategy, thinks of himself as a player on par with Putin, which is an eye-rolling hilarious thought to sane people.'

Raster

(20,998 posts)
20. That's a winner also... I think the intellect and political acumen of Steve Bannon...
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 10:42 PM
Nov 2017

... has been GREATLY exaggerated.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
14. Lol, my pleasure in watching the aforementioned meltdown doesn't feel strange at all.
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 08:58 PM
Nov 2017

It feels goooooood!

nolabear

(42,004 posts)
15. I love watching Chris Hayes' face when he interviews him.
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 09:05 PM
Nov 2017

He looks like a kid with the weirdest toy he has ever seen. He's not sure he's not going to lose a limb but fuckit, he's going in!

Iggo

(47,597 posts)
18. "...the Foreign Policy Center for Kids Who Cant Read Good and Want To Read Good."
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 10:32 PM
Nov 2017

Oh my gawd!!!!!

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