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And to think she was in charge of the Gore campaign and a loyal party member for 35 yrs. But you would have us think she is like Clarke. What nonsense. Letting a repub extremist inject division into the democratic party and you promote it. The only thing these 2 have in common is they both like cowboy hats. What is accomplished by this post?

My post was 3 letters- wtf

She helped draft and then negotiated the memorandum to Gore's JFA that gave him financial oversight of DNC funds before he had the nomination. The Clinton campaign modeled its memorandum on the deal Donna cut for Gore.

I'm sure it's all all an innocent mistake that Donna doesn't remember who Clarke is. After all, she doesn't remember the fact that she is responsible for setting the precedent for the shocking financial oversight arrangement that her ghost writer refers to as a "cancer" in the new autobiographic novel.

https://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/clinton-puts-tight-grip-on-dnc-wallet-119748

She worked on Gore election: stolen. Chads. Etc.
Worked on HRC election: stolen.
Coincidence?
#Stop me before I think about this any more

Seriously, do we do those anymore and how can I submit a rec?

when we say we can't attack other dems, I hope Clarke is the exception.

... then you no longer qualify as a Democrat for jury purposes.

I might ask Skinner for clarification on when we can officially declare that someone has pulled a Liberman.

And why not? Turncoats are downright heart-warming.

So glad to have lived to see this day, said no Democrat ever.

who was out to get everyone.

When in reality it was the opposite?

Andrea Mitchell is STILL going after Hillary, as recently as this past Tuesday.

Most unfairly maligned woman in American politics today--maybe even since Mary Todd Lincoln.

Not even Jane Fonda, at the height of the right wing hysteria against her, came in for this level of abuse.

In a way that aint mad about the treatment of HRC.

I remember her going after Hillary every day of the campaign. It was painfully obvious.

Sally Quinn's conservative social circle, who used their social position and, initially, the WaPo to carry out a vendetta against Hillary when Bill became president. Before that, they'd merely enjoyed and spread malicious stories around DC, such as the fun one about Hill having a lesbian affair with her pet groomer. Classy women. But after Hillary, knowing this, turned down an invitation from Quinn to dinner, they committed to destroying her.

Billionaire Scaife funded the creation of professional lie machines, they helped spread them and develop a culture of enmity toward Hillary in the beltway media, and eventually these petty little people's nastiness was a huge part of how America came to this point. I'd say Andrea has a lot NOT to think about, and Judaism does not require her to worry about hell.

As for Brazile, given the poor and resentful character she's revealed, I'm wondering all over again why she emailed an obviously unsolicited offer of debate questions to the Clinton campaign in the first place. Possibly her version of sucking up to the people around the next president, but she may have been trying to set them and her up also.

from that. The debate topics were released in advance. They test many variations of questions to prepare, and we know Hillary prepares obsessively. All Donna did was cast dark cloud on Hillary and the Dems.

I'm sure it was hard for Hillary. I thought Brazile should have been fired from the DNC when CNN fired her. I was right.

Her book is a vindictive, self indulgence. She figured out how to make a comeback and get rich after she destroyed her own career...lemon to lemonade, from her point of view. RW Repub will make it in the top 5 books on the NYT list. She will spend the rest of her career hanging with the folks on the other side, RWers who want to continue pounding Hillary forever. I used to respect her a lot. Now, nsda.

Despite the efforts of some to disrupt the message, there were some moments from that convention I'll never forget, especially the Kahn family, the cracking of the glass ceiling when she accepted, and Bill Clinton's speech. And Hillary's numbers soared afterwards.

Then along came Comey....and along came Comey again....and thud.

Gabbard was one choice & when her glaring controversial background became an issue Brazile was finally agreed upon.

There were more than one usurpers in the DNC & DEM Party in 2016.

Add in an assist from Assange, Guccifer, etc., the goal was to get one of their own as head of DNC.

DB can have Rove & his ilk.
She's a liar too.

I have no interest in the pee tape, I just want to see the rest of what's in that Dossier.

I will try to locate the screen shot & story wgere I read this.

May take me awhile but I will post it here when I do.

I had a great whip who did a great job of keeping us informed. He gave us some warning of the change but even the whips were not fully in the loop. I learned a new term at the convention "whipping infrastructure" that I will not be able to get out of my memory

so much love, inclusion and positivity. So different from the hate in the republican convention. I was so proud of Hillary and the Democratic Party!

!he night Mr. Kahm gave hos speech, I thought "Hillary won tonight"

I despise Comey, Brazile...and others whom I wont mention.

No Dems to defend him now. I think he will give them what they want to get off.

I remember that moment well... when Sarah Silverman snapped back at them with "You're being ridiculous!". Al Franken was there with her. Right there beside her. For anyone who doesn't believe me, just ask HIM. He's an HONEST and LOYAL and GENUINE Democrat. He'll tell you exactly what happened. They were disrupting and being rude, and Sarah had had enough.

It was a challenging but rewarding experience.

It was a great convention in spite of the Bobs saying untrue stuff and yelling at black people.

Russians, Comey, MSM, some so-called "progressives"; now we find out the person who was entrusted with making sure the election was on track was a traitor in the midst. And she had the nerve to complain about Hillary's phone call. "I wanted more." Hillary probably had to hold her nose on that call, but she made it anyway.

Boston Bean is a well-known, long-time, and respected DUer. She is a feminist and a true liberal.

Just stop. You are embarrassing yourself.

It’s been a year. We need to fight them, not each other.

plus a gazillion to you.

How about Warren? Is she still a Democrat?

It’s been a year. We don’t have time for infighting.

every time we move the fuck on something like this happens to stir the shit. After the resounding victories on Tuesday, Sanders had this to say last night on CNN:

Tom Watson?Verified account @tomwatson

"People are not happy with Democrats."
- Senator Sanders, just now on CNN
#DemsInDisarray

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and actual voters preferred Democrats this election day. We flipped our red county (Republican for 100 years) blue on Tuesday, with a woman taking the top office. We had no "endorsements" from Nina's Purity Patrol, thank goodness.

That said, I'm sure that some "people" are not happy with the Democrats. As long as voters and old school Dems like me (who do the grunt work to actually get candidates elected, even in an off year) are happy, we're positioned to do well in 2018.

I'd love to see our party draft Howard Dean as a candidate for office. We need more Democrats from the Democratic wing of the Democratic party, as Dean so famously said.

Poster didn't say anything about Warren.

And by the way Warren and Brazile are in no way comparable:

One is a paid political operative, the other is an excellent public servant.

I am more and more convinced this is a real problem.

You're doing the GOP's work in hurting our chances for 2018

But those who enjoy throwing mud
will keep throwing mud.

So childish,
and harmful in future elections.

By the way ~

Congratulations!

You've made my 'ignore list'.

An avaricious political operative is not a DU'er. You misrepresented OP as an attack on DU'ers and disagreement with a current dishonest book as "refighting the primary".

I called you out on that and you doubled down.

As to making yr Ignore list, Hallelujah!!!!

Btw, You understand it is considered very bad form to announce yr ignoring someone right? Reflects rather poorly on you.

It's clear your concern isn't the least bit honest.

is attacking the Democratic party using old disproven stories about "rigging the nomination" while she tries to pretend she had authority to rig who the candidate would be after the party convention.
That is indefensible.

Don't care who they hurt.

Too bad it wasn't more specific. Maybe the whole truth will come out someday.

What especially gets me about DB is the way she put the book out there a week before the election -- instead of a week after. It wouldn't have hurt her sales to wait a week. She did this intentionally.

though about some sort of mole/or collusion with Republican party and all the hacking by Russia.

what I found interesting is, before Donna Brazile was even asked to work in DNC, (this was the time DWS was having all the insider troubles & WikiLeaks was dripping out some, a few stolen files)...

...DBs cell phone was hacked, it went offline and she lost all her emails/files and had to reset the cell phone. Couple weeks went by, then she was asked to replace DWS and took the DNC position.

After the debates that's when a couple of DBs stolen emails were leaked, the 2 stolen emails about the debate questions re the lead poisoning in Detroit.

IMO, whoever pushed to bring in DB to replace DWS, already may have had access to those 2 stolen emails and knew those could be easily used to discredit DB and the DNC even more. Whos idea was it to bring in DB? She was working as a professor, wasn't interested in working for DNC. IMO, the mole(s) are whoever wanted her in DNC.

On the one hand our DNC must move forward and focus 100% on midterms success for all Ds running.

In the background- all this corruption/collusion/any moles/the hacking- all that has to be worked on totally separately from any DNC election work. Because these crimes will happen again to our Party. Our democracy will be attacked again.

are carefully chosen. Hers was very odd.

in her own words..

" ...I was next in line to succeed Florida Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz should she decide to step down as the chair of the Democratic Party. The last thing I wanted to be was the person who took her place. But suddenly that seemed almost inevitable.

The Party was about to make history as it gathered to nominate the nations first woman presidential candidate, but we were stumbling from a bruising primary season. And everyone was blaming Debbie....."

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remember back then? almost every DU post was anti-DWS- get rid of her, people said... We Ds shot ourselves by attacking our own hardest working Ds. during the time our DNC was hacked/attacked..was NOT the time to change Leadership .

Shouldn't be changing Leadership positions in middle of election season. Give them more help & support.

If DB has something worthwhile to say, then it is worth reading I think shedding light on the hacking etc may make reading it worthwhile.

I still don't know why DB is burning bridges. In another post, another DU member posted credits from the book. Other literary agents involved with this book are strong Republicans. One worked for Rumsfeld. I guess credits are on the book jacket. (My literary skills are zilch...sorry if wording is off) I have no idea why DB teamed up with Republicans.

Hillary, but she attempted to influence the recent election. If she goes that far out of her way to influence an election, no telling what else she did, maybe some of Wikileaks. Who knows. She was pals w Rove. She probably was one of the moles. Maybe the book was his idea...it sounds like him, and I thought about that when I first learned about it. Obviously, I'm speculating. God, we were blocked in every direction. Totally infiltrated, inside and out.

Hell hath no fury like the Hillary Haters. She is the strongest 🏋️?♂️woman I've ever known.

lol

Chalk this up to eternal optimism (not necessarily my strong suit), but think about it. Where would we be if Hillary had won? ReThugs would be pounding the email issue, Benghazi, Vince Foster, and basically everything they've been able to taint Hillary and Bill with for the past 30 years. They'ed be pounding the Democratic disunity, while being much more united in their ReThug opposition than they presently even willing to imagine.

I'm not saying I perfer where we are now. I'd rather not have to be concerned about extremely serious state we presently find our democracy in. But I do know that this divisiveness will not end without convincing all those Fox watchers that something bigger than what they have been led to believe is really the problem. The fascist propaganda machine HAS to be contained BEFORE we can get back on track. We NOW have the best arguments we've ever had to turn this propaganda machine on it's head! Mueller will be helping us! Fox, and all the other right wing extremist outlets will have to find justifications for their absurdities, and it will only become a greater and much more obvious streach for them to do so.

I don't like where we are. But it is what it is, and I wonder where would we be if Hillary had won? We can do MUCH more to expose the ReThug agenda now! All we have to do is explain it calmly. Stop the Hillary vs. Bernie crap. It's time to run on a liberal/progressive agenda that re-ligitimizes the liberal and progressive agenda (after years of Limbaugh bashing just the term "liberal&quot . We need to reclaim our dignity as a more loyal opposition party to the anti-democratic fascists presently in power.

My gods

talked in circles and over everyone. Even Mika said "that was fun" meaning not.

I don't like your bait. If I have to spell it out, we're on different planes.

Such deep arguments are often promoted when one tries to argue against the obvious truth.

I am supposed to believe I'm amongst intuitive folks here. But they can't seem to grasp the meaning of a one word statement. See - here's the thing though - I've been here long enough to know that drawing a definition for these challenged sorts is an ever-so-sly (In their mind) attempt at pinning a demerit badge on me. Guess what - it's a futile pursuit. So yeah, consider me real "shallow", pat yourself on the back and reward yourself with a beverage of your preference.

What with me having grown up across the road from a dairy farm. Bulls - those are the male of bovine species - subsist on grasses and other greenery. Their digestive system - not wholly different from our own - will process what they eat and eventually discharge the spent ingestments via a discharge port found just below the base of their tail. This discharge is semi-firm and somewhat offensive to human olfactory receptors. That said, I've heard dairymen refer to it's odor as the smell of money. And if you check the price of beef these days, maybe you can make the connection.
As for their excretions, there's actually real value in them - which makes you wonder why it's come to mean something unpleasant or offensive. Where I live, bullshit is BIG business. You might be amazed at the YUGE spreader trucks that put the stuff on hundreds of thousands of acres in the central California county I reside in. Here, bullshit helps create the stuff you eat and the stuff you wear. Horrid stuff, eh?

Lemme know if I need to go deeper for you.

And are very proud of it. Bovine system are quite different than a humans, I’m not suprised you didn’t know. It’s ok.

bullshit comes out the other.

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bait.

You've not made an argument.

Then you act as if you're intellectually superior because people don't understand the point of an argument you never made.

Were you in the Navy? That's where you learn to tie a simple piece of rope into some really complicated knots. I'm impressed!

Haven't you embarrassed yourself enough today already?

You still haven't made an argument.

You've claimed OP is "bait" or "bullshit". And then you tell us how your argument backing that up your claims is far too sophisticated for little people of DU to possible grasp.

Yet you've not presented an argument.

I don't think you are capable of doing so, because it you were, you would have already.


Have a nice day.

no matter how they claim to detect it in an establishment shill.

Like it's ice cream.

this is the first time I've encountered an actual bull shit expert.

Oh wait, that's a different thread of indignation.

You’re concerned she’s on a list.

I need a program.

I thought that was well established.

From "GOP's Peter King Wants Glenn Greenwald Arrested":

And what do you think about Donna Brazile now?

Cuz HRC was "incapacitated" with walking pneumonia.

Of course Donna recommend acupuncture rather than antibiotics.