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bigtree

(86,023 posts)
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 11:02 AM Nov 2017

Jim Comey: 'If you want truth to go round the world you must hire an express train to pull it'





James Comey @Comey
I included the picture of the Great Falls of the Potomac because I like it and because it reminds me of my favorite scripture verse, from Amos: “But let justice roll down like waters and righteousness like an ever-flowing stream.”
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Jim Comey: 'If you want truth to go round the world you must hire an express train to pull it' (Original Post) bigtree Nov 2017 OP
Fuck Gabi Hayes Nov 2017 #1
Exactly. I cannot believe he is acting holier than thou right now. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #3
Comey, you are an expert on how to spread a lie. A very damaging one. nt Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #2
WTF is the matter with this guy? Dave Starsky Nov 2017 #4
He doesn't know what to do with himself. He knows he inflicted the country... brush Nov 2017 #40
I hate what Comey did but I believe he is not part of Trump/Russia and he is repulsed by Trump. Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #5
of course he's repulsed by Trump bigtree Nov 2017 #9
That pretty picture of the waterfalls he posted can not hide his ugly act. Botany Nov 2017 #6
I don't think he intended a Trump victory with all of that bigtree Nov 2017 #10
You know what they say about when you ASSUME. Dave Starsky Nov 2017 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author bigtree Nov 2017 #19
that pretty picture of the waterfalls he posted can not hide his ugly act. Botany Nov 2017 #15
I'm not sure it was intended to bigtree Nov 2017 #17
"...I believe he's needling Trump." Botany Nov 2017 #22
I'm dealing with now bigtree Nov 2017 #43
He is too smart and has been in the game long enough to know lunamagica Nov 2017 #16
there's no defense in what I said bigtree Nov 2017 #18
Yes, his animosity to Trump after the election is another thing that doesn't add up. crosinski Nov 2017 #20
It adds up if trump didn't respond the way Comey expected lunamagica Nov 2017 #28
Well, maybe. In fact, I think there's a lot more going on than we know. crosinski Nov 2017 #55
Perhaps trump didn't respond the way Comey expected? lunamagica Nov 2017 #26
I disagree. I think it makes perfect sense to say that he didn't like Trump and still wanted him StevieM Nov 2017 #35
Comey was no naive rookie when he sent the letter on Oct. 28. brush Nov 2017 #41
He thought she would win so gave into pressure from right wing types JI7 Nov 2017 #21
And she could have won if not for his letter. LisaL Nov 2017 #54
I actually do think he intended for Trump to win. (eom) StevieM Nov 2017 #32
If it waslks like a duck, etrc. Or as the saying in Spanish goes lunamagica Nov 2017 #37
he was FBI , he wasn't a Political Strategist . he thought HIllary would win JI7 Nov 2017 #42
You don't need to be a political strategist to know that him babbling in June and a few days before lunamagica Nov 2017 #45
he is smart in the way Ben Carson is smart . which mean she can be totally out of it in other areas, JI7 Nov 2017 #47
So on top of everything, he's also a coward lunamagica Nov 2017 #48
yes, he is a coward . but he will never admit the real reason he did what he did JI7 Nov 2017 #49
I agree. Robert Mueller is everything Comey only pretends to be lunamagica Nov 2017 #51
he assumed Clinton would win so he decided to help Donald Fucking Trump? Skittles Nov 2017 #36
not help Trump bigtree Nov 2017 #44
there is zero benefit? Skittles Nov 2017 #46
THIS. It bears repeaating. HE. NEEDS. TO. COME. CLEAN lunamagica Nov 2017 #50
it may seem like his letter should take prominence bigtree Nov 2017 #53
+1 lunamagica Nov 2017 #33
Some don't really care that he was costly to DEMS. They really care that he is costly 2 Donald& co. Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #7
Comey the witness is dangerous to Donald & his band of traitors. Denigrate him he is not such a Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #8
Good point, but without HIS uneven handed meddling Gabi Hayes Nov 2017 #11
Yep, right now Saving the Republic takes precedence! Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #12
I see Germany, circa early 30s Gabi Hayes Nov 2017 #13
I think his handling went beyond "uneven." I think he was deliberately trying to destroy Hillary's StevieM Nov 2017 #29
Comey is possibly the worst politician in history... dpd3672 Nov 2017 #23
Lordy! Gabi Hayes Nov 2017 #24
This is a great cartoon. Bernie lovers should take note--this is what it looks like when somebody StevieM Nov 2017 #27
Exactly. Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2017 #34
Excellent! This is just brilliant. Thanks for bringing it over lunamagica Nov 2017 #38
I think he is a great politician. He got the Republican candidate elected, just like he wanted. StevieM Nov 2017 #25
He had to open his yap Twice to get the job done Gabi Hayes Nov 2017 #30
Great analogy. That's exactly what happened lunamagica Nov 2017 #52
"And if you want to de-rail a campaign, get a self-righteous FBI guy to sanctimoniously opine." WinkyDink Nov 2017 #31
If you read this carefully and slowly... defacto7 Nov 2017 #39

Irish_Dem

(48,123 posts)
3. Exactly. I cannot believe he is acting holier than thou right now.
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 11:05 AM
Nov 2017

He, Putin and Trump are birds of a feather.

brush

(53,978 posts)
40. He doesn't know what to do with himself. He knows he inflicted the country...
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 11:32 PM
Nov 2017

and the world with trump so now he's trying to ingratiate himself back into society.

Dems won't have him, and repugs — I don't care what the fu_k they think.

bigtree

(86,023 posts)
9. of course he's repulsed by Trump
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 11:18 AM
Nov 2017

...not part of the Trump/Russia scandal, invested in exposing the scandal his office began investigating, clearing his reputation from Trump's charges and lies.

It's karma, imo, to see him caught up in the web he helped weave, but it's not in anyone's interest to dwell on his choices in that election, not anyone who is interested in holding Trump accountable for his firing and interference.

After all, harping on his transgressions against Hillary is Trump's incriminating excuse to Lester.

Botany

(70,662 posts)
6. That pretty picture of the waterfalls he posted can not hide his ugly act.
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 11:11 AM
Nov 2017

He knew that the "Clinton email" story he pushed in late Oct. 2016 was from
Russia and it was a lie but he put it out in order to hurt Hillary but he wouldn't
say word one about the facts that Russia was meddling in our elections.

That pretty picture of the waterfalls he posted can not hide his ugly act.

bigtree

(86,023 posts)
10. I don't think he intended a Trump victory with all of that
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 11:22 AM
Nov 2017

...I think he assumed a Hillary win.

Anyway, it's not exactly in the interest of prosecuting Trump to put all of that before the details of Comey's investigation he began under Obama. It's important, but not as actionable right now as is Comey's subsequent fight to preserve the integrity of his probe and his testimony about Trump's interference.

Eye on the ball.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
14. You know what they say about when you ASSUME.
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 12:14 PM
Nov 2017

You make an ASS out of U and ME.

Words to live by, my young friend.

A lot of people ASSUMED that Hillary Clinton would win the election. They should not have banked their futures, nor the futures of all others in this country, on that assumption.

Response to Dave Starsky (Reply #14)

Botany

(70,662 posts)
22. "...I believe he's needling Trump."
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 06:01 PM
Nov 2017

Fat load of help that will do now. The mother fucker helped to flip the
election. End of story.

bigtree

(86,023 posts)
43. I'm dealing with now
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 12:16 AM
Nov 2017

...I can't go back and change the outcome of the election.

Comey may well be the key to bringing the bastard down. He's evidently still determined to see the investigation, he began, end with justice for Trump. That's what I took from his post, looking beyond what's impossible at this point, to what is actionable now.

Not end of story, at all.



lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
16. He is too smart and has been in the game long enough to know
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 01:42 PM
Nov 2017

that you don't drop a bombshell ELEVEN days before an election, when the candidate has no time to recover.

Meanwhile, no mention of trump bein investigated. He knew exactly what he was doing, which was to push trump over the winning line.

If he didn't intend for trump to win, why do it, why the timing?

I can't believe how many defenders this guy has on DU.

That immoral self-righteous hypocritical scumbag will never ge a pass from me.

bigtree

(86,023 posts)
18. there's no defense in what I said
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 03:30 PM
Nov 2017

...you just can't accept I have a different view of his motive, so you try and smear me away from my opinion.

...this (on DU) I can believe.

It makes no sense that he held all of the animosity to Trump he testified to and was trying to elect him anyway.

Thanks for playing though..

crosinski

(413 posts)
20. Yes, his animosity to Trump after the election is another thing that doesn't add up.
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 05:29 PM
Nov 2017

Piece by piece, Comey has become a puzzle to me. At the very least, those tweets of his seem to be well timed and meticulously worded, which seems telling, if not downright peculiar.

crosinski

(413 posts)
55. Well, maybe. In fact, I think there's a lot more going on than we know.
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 02:54 PM
Nov 2017

I just hope we get to hear the whole story eventually. In the meantime though, when I'm watching a puzzling situation unfold in life, I like to keep as many questions open as possible. I think the role Comey played in this situation still has too many possibilities open for me to say just exactly what he did. So, for now, I'm a Comey watcher. I'm waiting to see what clue he'll give us next, because I think he knows all the dirty details, and wants us to know he knows.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
35. I disagree. I think it makes perfect sense to say that he didn't like Trump and still wanted him
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 10:45 PM
Nov 2017

to win. Electing Trump got Neil Gorsuch on the court. They could take care of Trump later.

Lots of Republicans hated Trump and still genuinely wanted him to win.

brush

(53,978 posts)
41. Comey was no naive rookie when he sent the letter on Oct. 28.
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 11:54 PM
Nov 2017

Last edited Mon Nov 13, 2017, 08:16 AM - Edit history (1)

Come on, he knew it would get leaked. He's was head of the FBI so he also knew it was a violation of the Hatch Act.

He may have fooled some people...

JI7

(89,289 posts)
21. He thought she would win so gave into pressure from right wing types
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 05:33 PM
Nov 2017

Which he will never admit to since it would make him appear weak.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
37. If it waslks like a duck, etrc. Or as the saying in Spanish goes
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 10:54 PM
Nov 2017

"No le Busques Tres pies al Gato sabiendo que Tiene Cuatro.", meaning Don’t look at the cat and try to find three feet when you know that it has four.

The whole thing it's quite clear.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
45. You don't need to be a political strategist to know that him babbling in June and a few days before
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 12:23 AM
Nov 2017

the election would hurt Hillary and help trump. Anyone with average intelligence would see that. And he is way above average.

Yes, He thought Hillary could win, so he did his part to derail her, which he did

JI7

(89,289 posts)
47. he is smart in the way Ben Carson is smart . which mean she can be totally out of it in other areas,
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 12:26 AM
Nov 2017

plus he gave in to pressure from right wing types which he will never admit to since it reveals his weakness.

JI7

(89,289 posts)
49. yes, he is a coward . but he will never admit the real reason he did what he did
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 12:50 AM
Nov 2017

because it shows him to be a coward.

robert mueller would never have done what he did.

Skittles

(153,314 posts)
36. he assumed Clinton would win so he decided to help Donald Fucking Trump?
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 10:48 PM
Nov 2017

you're the one whose eye needs to stay on the ball

bigtree

(86,023 posts)
44. not help Trump
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 12:22 AM
Nov 2017

...but distance his office from her incoming administration, a stupid attempt to mollify his critics on the right.

He's not very politically astute, imo.

The 'ball' is the prosecution effort, in which Comey's firing, and his testimony and notes about Trump's interference should play a central part in any obstruction prosecution.

There is zero benefit in parsing or grousing over Comey's letter. We can't go back.

bigtree

(86,023 posts)
53. it may seem like his letter should take prominence
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 09:49 AM
Nov 2017

..but every time we focus on Comey/Hillary we distract from Comey vs. Trump.

It's clear that's what Trump would like us to do; harp on Comey's credibility and spread doubt about his testimony against the WH., divide and conquer. That's why it makes no sense to dwell on something which is virtually intractable at this point.

That's why Trump clumsily brought it up to Lester as a reason for Comey's firing. The more we bear down on that point, the more Trump is able to use it as an excuse for the firing (with whatever cover he's able to leverage from his Dem opposition), even though we all know he was more concerned with protecting his own skin.

In effect, dwelling on Comey/Clinton is a trap he tried to set. It's not in the interest of prosecuting him to put that concern at the forefront; more important to use Comey as a wedge against the WH.

 

Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)
7. Some don't really care that he was costly to DEMS. They really care that he is costly 2 Donald& co.
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 11:12 AM
Nov 2017

Witness that he is & all...

 

Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)
8. Comey the witness is dangerous to Donald & his band of traitors. Denigrate him he is not such a
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 11:14 AM
Nov 2017

GOOD WITNESS after all.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
11. Good point, but without HIS uneven handed meddling
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 11:45 AM
Nov 2017

Hillary wins, irrelevant of trump/Russia collusion

It’s that simple

He will testify, which will be viciously and dishonestly denigrated by trump supporters

THEN he can fuck right off

Forever


 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
13. I see Germany, circa early 30s
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 12:05 PM
Nov 2017

So many ways for republican traitors to turn this into an enabling act scenario

They have the the entire leg/jud/electoral/media system by the throat

Not to mention the fact that most people don’t know or care what is going on

Too busy going bazinga

They’ll get what they deserve

And drag us down in their ignorant indifference

Good times!!!!

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
29. I think his handling went beyond "uneven." I think he was deliberately trying to destroy Hillary's
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 10:39 PM
Nov 2017

candidacy, and take down Democratic Senate candidates along with her.

 

dpd3672

(82 posts)
23. Comey is possibly the worst politician in history...
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 06:04 PM
Nov 2017

Having managed to piss off and alienate BOTH sides in a particularly vitriol filled election cycle.

Probably the only thing that both the left and right agree on is that Comey should have his ass kicked, lol.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
27. This is a great cartoon. Bernie lovers should take note--this is what it looks like when somebody
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 10:34 PM
Nov 2017

really puts their thumb on the scale.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,776 posts)
34. Exactly.
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 10:43 PM
Nov 2017

Russia may have pulled it off without him, but I have not doubt that by tipping the scales against Hillary, Comey got Trump elected.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
25. I think he is a great politician. He got the Republican candidate elected, just like he wanted.
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 10:32 PM
Nov 2017

Even Donald Trump could win, in spite of his disastrous campaign, because he successfully tricked the American people into believing HRC broke the law.

Comey may have tried to take down Trump after the election but his first priority was to defeat Hillary. He succeeded.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
30. He had to open his yap Twice to get the job done
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 10:39 PM
Nov 2017

Knock her down

Run her over

Back up over her

Just to make sure

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
52. Great analogy. That's exactly what happened
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 01:12 AM
Nov 2017

He couldn't get the job done the first time, so he had to run her over again.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
39. If you read this carefully and slowly...
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 11:03 PM
Nov 2017

It sounds like someone who is finishing the 15th turn on the rope he's tying for himself.

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