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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,499 posts)
Sun Nov 12, 2017, 10:01 PM Nov 2017

What Does Roy Moore's Law School Professor have to Say?

Most here remember the beyond-the-grave condemnation of the current White House occupant by his now-departed teacher at Wharton: “Donald Trump was the dumbest goddam student I ever had!"

Wouldn’t it be interesting to get a former professor’s take on the Republican Senate candidate from Alabama?

Well, you’re in luck. Back in the mists of time (September), long before ShortEyeGate, before Alabaman Republicans went to the polls to choose between Luther Strange and Roy Moore, Mr. Moore’s former law professor penned an op-ed for Al.com urging his fellow Republicans to beware Mr. Moore and get behind Strange.

Remember, this is previous to "Moore" + “strange” gaining a very different connotation. Also note: Guy V. Martin, Jr., Moore’s former instructor, is very, very different from you and me. He is a deeply conservative Republican and devout Christian who, while arguing strenuously for separation of church and state, is okay with the thought of “converting every American to Christianity.” Not a Maddow fan, you might surmise.

Martin offered three arguments to his fellow conservatives against the election of Moore. The first is that Mr. Moore habitually falls into illogic and refuses to back down from his obviously incorrect views (sound familiar?).

In law school, the arguments arose from what Disraeli called "falling into a deep groove of illogic and being helpless to allow reason to pull you out." If Moore's analysis of a case was tantamount to thinking 1 + 1 = 3, and his classmates reasoned otherwise, there was no backing down by Moore. The class was willing to fight to the death against illogic that no legal mind but one in America would espouse.

Moore never won one argument, and the debates got ugly and personal. The result: gone was the fulfillment a teacher hopes for in the still peace of logic and learning. I had no choice but to abandon the Socratic method of class participation in favor of the lecture mode because of one student: Roy Moore.


https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/11/12/1714983/-What-Does-Roy-Moore-s-Law-School-Professor-have-to-Say
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What Does Roy Moore's Law School Professor have to Say? (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2017 OP
Gosh, I'm surprised! PJMcK Nov 2017 #1
Fellow students? Gabi Hayes Nov 2017 #2
There was a law professor?!1 UTUSN Nov 2017 #3
Wow. That is more damning tga3n the appraisal of fuckwad. pangaia Nov 2017 #4
Sorry, this guy was pathetic if he allowed one student to control the class. former9thward Nov 2017 #5
To Be Fair. . . ProfessorGAC Nov 2017 #9
Class pacing and format are often dictated by the student LanternWaste Nov 2017 #10
Perhaps, perhaps too harsh, but surely you're addressing Hortensis Nov 2017 #12
A contrarian bastard. sandensea Nov 2017 #6
Goodness Gracious! So telling. Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #7
Who is surprised by this? Gothmog Nov 2017 #8
A post that actually adds to the picture. Thanks, Yo Mama. Hortensis Nov 2017 #11

former9thward

(32,169 posts)
5. Sorry, this guy was pathetic if he allowed one student to control the class.
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 12:14 AM
Nov 2017

And he was weak kneed compared to any law school professors I ever had. And I will ask one question. What grade did he give him? It is the same question I asked when I read the reports of the professor at Wharton saying Trump was the "dumbest student he had". Ok, fine, what grade did you give him? Silence....

ProfessorGAC

(65,458 posts)
9. To Be Fair. . .
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 01:22 PM
Nov 2017

. . .that particular professor is dead. Now Moore's professor presents a situation where your question is eminently fair.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
10. Class pacing and format are often dictated by the student
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 01:34 PM
Nov 2017

Class pacing and format are often dictated by the student who is the lowest common demonstrator.

Odd this news to you is inferred as a weak-kneed and pathetic instructor. Typical and consistent with your narrative, yet still odd.

No doubt, it's much easier to ask what his grade was rather than researching the answer-- and asking it allows your narrative to continue as it is.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
12. Perhaps, perhaps too harsh, but surely you're addressing
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 02:00 PM
Nov 2017

a collateral point, and with perhaps inappropriate conviction? You weren't there, and the professor's dead and not in the running for the U.S. Senate.

Would like to know the grade also, but I strongly suspect this disruptive student gave the answers he needed to on written tests. After all, he graduated became a licensed attorney. Psychopathy, if involved, is not synonymous with stupidity and usually contains a strong element of malicious manipulation.

sandensea

(21,734 posts)
6. A contrarian bastard.
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 12:37 AM
Nov 2017

They (almost) never change - except mostly to get worse. Refuting others is all about ego for these people; the truth be damned.

So I suppose it stands to reason he can only feel attraction for underage girls: they can't compete with him in an argument (or so he thinks).

To borrow Cheeto's pet phrase: Sad.

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