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underpants

(183,057 posts)
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 11:30 AM Nov 2017

Army lifts ban on waivers for recruits with history of some mental health issues

WASHINGTON – People with a history of “self-mutilation,” bipolar disorder, depression and drug and alcohol abuse can now seek waivers to join the Army under an unannounced policy enacted in August, according to documents obtained by USA TODAY.

The decision to open Army recruiting to those with mental health conditions comes as the service faces the challenging goal of recruiting 80,000 new soldiers through September 2018. To meet last year's goal of 69,000, the Army accepted more recruits who fared poorly on aptitude tests, increased the number of waivers granted for marijuana use and offered hundreds of millions of dollars in bonuses.

Expanding the waivers for mental health is possible in part because the Army now has access to more medical information about each potential recruit, Lt. Col. Randy Taylor, an Army spokesman, said in a statement. The Army issued the ban on waivers in 2009 amid an epidemic of suicides among troops.

“The decision was primarily due to the increased availability of medical records and other data which is now more readily available,” Taylor's statement to USA TODAY said. “These records allow Army officials to better document applicant medical histories.”

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/11/12/army-lifts-ban-recruits-history-self-mutilation-other-mental-health-issues/853131001/

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Army lifts ban on waivers for recruits with history of some mental health issues (Original Post) underpants Nov 2017 OP
This Decision Puts Lives At Risk. Perhaps It's Time to Rethink Our Many & Ongoing Military Actions dlk Nov 2017 #1
Will we be able to tell the difference? Not Ruth Nov 2017 #2
I am not one who ordinarily encourages discrimination against the mentally ill. moriah Nov 2017 #3
It is not fair to force the enemy to fight the mentally ill Not Ruth Nov 2017 #4
What I'm saying is, if people think that seeking help... moriah Nov 2017 #5

moriah

(8,311 posts)
3. I am not one who ordinarily encourages discrimination against the mentally ill.
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 11:37 AM
Nov 2017

However, if they're claiming they can't get trans soldiers their hormones on the battlefield, what about mood stabilizers???

I'd be okay with those being taken from "any history or prior diagnosis is an absolute exclusion" to "have had two independent psychiatric evaluations that agree these are not active conditions that require medication, and those with Bipolar are NOT forced into sleep deprivation but are issued 'no-go pills' for emergencies and placed on medical downtime for said required sleep".

Still... we really need sanity in our military. It's hard enough for a person without a pre-existing psychological condition to come out of combat in one piece mentally.

 

Not Ruth

(3,613 posts)
4. It is not fair to force the enemy to fight the mentally ill
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 11:48 AM
Nov 2017

It is inhumane. If a mentally ill soldier commits a war crime, they are not responsible, their commanders are. And what sane soldier wants to be in the trenches with a hundred mentally ill comrades. That is a hostile work environment.

moriah

(8,311 posts)
5. What I'm saying is, if people think that seeking help...
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 12:06 PM
Nov 2017

... for psychological problems is going to give them a label they can never shed, they aren't likely to get that help. And we need for people to feel safe seeking help even when they think it's something not that serious. Insight is something that's learned through experience. A person might be in denial about how serious it is, but if they even think they should see a counselor, they need to. Just to be safe.

And there are many people who have experienced depression in the past, or been given that diagnosis when "Adjustment Disorder with Depressive Features" would have been the more correct label, but don't have Major Depressive Disorder or Bipolar Disorder.

People who have done the right, smart, sane things and sought help when they thought they needed it shouldn't automatically be penalized for being responsible and seeking out that help.

Instead I am okay with there being a procedure to find out if those people who have been labeled with things in the past prove that they are not currently existing concerns that would affect their careers or ability to serve.

I'm very concerned about Bipolar Disorder, though. People who have it, who really do have it and aren't mislabeled, need regular and regulated sleep as their most basic self-care and medicine. Most medication regimens to treat it include arranging the necessary meds so side effects of them make a person sleepy when they should be. People with the mild version, cyclothymia, might be able to go without meds at all if they are ruthless in their sleep hygiene.

They probably already have SOPs about how long a soldier is allowed to stay awake, at least for pilots. They need to ensure those are implemented for ANY enlistee who has a history of Bipolar Disorder if that one is not going to be an exclusion.

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