Revelations have slowed in the last week, but I'd bet something big is coming very soon.

Our appetites were primed when it was necessary to indict ahead of a statute of limitations. We can't let that determine our expectations for every week going forward.

Juliette Kayyem: 'It Is Safe To Say That Before Thanksgiving ... Something Is Going To Drop With Mueller.'
October 25, 2017
MOLLY BOIGON
National security expert Juliette Kayyem is predicting news from Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation will be announced within the next month.

“I think it is safe to say that before Thanksgiving ... something’s going to drop with Mueller,” she said on Boston Public Radio today. “The pace is too much right now. Every 12 hours we’re now dealing with a piece of this story at a pace we haven’t seen.”

Kayyem was prompted to make her prediction by the buzz surrounding a story about how Hillary Clinton’s campaign funded what would eventually become the famous “Trump-Russia Dossier” that surfaced in January.

therefore it must be true?

They are flooding Twitter, YT, FB, and other sites with some crazy and disturbing shit. This stuff happened before the Manafort indictment, too.

I don't have time or inclination for that

with multiple arrests. Not small players in any way. How in the world is it losing steam? Seems to be the exact opposite. We are now hearing rumors of additional arrests and a continuing increase in the scope of the investigation.

Everything I see tells me it's the opposite of "losing steam".

Indictments are almost always the peak of activity. After that it's very difficult to do clandestine investigation since all the suspect change their mode of operations. Most of the "flipping" that occurs, happens under the threat of indictment, which that suspect can be most useful and the higher level target remains unaware.

After indictments are made public, most of the activity moves to either trial or pleas. There might be a few lower level indictments, but usually the first "strike" is highest and best.

So while I couldn't call it "losing steam", I do think it's contracting, focusing, and eventually closing not expanding.

For is't conception it has not been a "clandestine investigation".

"and eventually closing not expanding."

That is the exact opposite of losing steam.

But "threat of indictment" isn't exactly a legal term. It's a media term.

And if there wasn't clandestine investigation going on, then somebody was doing it wrong. I get "clandestine" sounds scary but that's not the intent here. Virtually all investigations, except for maybe stoplight cameras have an element of clandestine.

The process took more than 2 years to culminate in Nixon's resignation. Mueller was appointed in May and has been looking under every rock...and with this bunch there are a lot of rocks.

And no, in an investigation like this (essentially one into organized crime), the first indictments are not the biggest and best: they are the first waves hitting a foundation of sand.

Well that is what I'm pointing out. He was appointed in May and there is already the big splash of indictments.

In an investigation (not the overall prosecution, just the investigation), Indictments are a closing activity of that investigation phase.

Believe me, holding a indictment over someones head is a HUGE lever for getting what you need out of that individual. Once you pull that lever, you can't pull it again.

Either way - it should be interesting to watch this play out.

For one thing, it's the largest investigation since 911.

The indictments so far announced (Manaford, Papadapoulis) or intimated (Flint, Flint Jr) have been released for strategic effect. They also involve people mostly around the edges. There are more sealed indictments -- forget how many but 12 or thereabouts sticks in my mind.

Mueller is like a chess grand master. He has some 16 of the very best prosecutors in the country, all specializing in various badass crimes -- money laundering, RICO, who knows what all.

Hang on, it's going to be quite a show, IMO.

But the tipping point has happened, the moment the first indictment was unsealed.

Popular opinion and the dumpfs attempts to change it's direction didn't stop that from happening, Mueller will not be swayed from releasing his magnum opus.

Just as impeachment talks are premature without articulating a clear and decisive and provable case for impeachment in that talk.

Mueller isn't going to indict unless he knows the charge is provable within a reasonable doubt. To do otherwise would be foolish and make future investigations of political shenanigans harder to get approved. Don't look for momentum, look for facts that prove wrongdoing and I hope actual accountability. Remember Trump and pals will have some of the best and perhaps least moral lawyers working to discredit every single piece of evidence Mueller puts forth. One wrong move by Mueller could overshadow the true facts of the case.

Real investigations of this scale take years, if anything I'm surprised by how quickly things are moving.

Possibly all of next year, and into 2019.

It goes without saying how impatient we all are to nail this criminal cabal!

These investigations take time and it is clear this investigation involves more than an obstruction charge for firing Comey. There were rumors a few weeks ago (before the Manafort indictment became public), that Mueller would be wrapping up by Thanksgiving. That was misinformation at its finest.

Then there were reports *last week* about Mueller preparing to speak with Stephen Miller. He should have been questioned as soon as news broke of the June 2016 meeting at the Tower with Junior.

Despite the recent indictments, the case is still moving (plodding?) along, albeit not as fast as any of us on the left would prefer. We simply need to be patient and not get upset unless we hear Mueller is closing up shop. We cannot give up hope!

but the big indictment just before Thanksgiving will be all the nation will talk about at the Thanksgiving tables.

We are going to have to save ourselves in any/all upcoming elections. There is no time to be disheartened or put off by lack of bombshell news because we need to keep on turning over red seats across the country. Barring his firing Muller will probably get this done but even at an accelerated rate we are probably going to have a bit of a wait.

You don't have to worry about trump. he's is no way or fashion is doing anything that seems presidential. Every minute, hour and second of every day trump is proven to be a complete and utter fraud of a human being. Nobody will ever accuse him of being "presidential".

and I am willing to bet Mueller is keeping in mind how this will play / affect national government, leadership. What is at stake. Armed rebellion by the deplorables if evidence isn't ironclad?

In my view politics ALWAYS plays into legal outcomes. IOW, there courts can, and have been known to, justify a wide array of clearly biased decisions: Bush v. Gore, Plessy v. Ferguson, for example.

Mueller is actually ahead of schedule.

The former US attorney for the Southern District of NY Preet Bharara (who was fired by trump after being asked to stay) has a podcast that discusses the speed of the Russian investigation. In his opinion he says Mueller is going fast with it. That there is a lot more than just the alleged collusion with Russia that he is investigating. I highly recommend the podcast. The name of it is

Stay Tuned with Preet.

Just when you think it's going away.... Boom, there it is... I can't wait...

there are Funding Dates in Washington DC. Mr. Mueller has to notify the Treasury will a Budget and forward funding needs for the next Fiscal Year beginning at the end of October,which should have been the 28 th. The next round of Jail filling should begin in late December and again in January.

Just a Paper Shuffling pause.

Investigations are slow and painstaking. Mueller’s doing his job, even when the press isn’t reporting on it.

Trump's obvious fear and Mueller's team keeping things quite gives me hope.

Mueller is not leaking anything about this investigation. I am pleased to see how professional this investigation has been

Given a cast of many characters foreign and domestic, mountains of evidence, increasing scope, and ongoing interviews for Mueller and company to process, it is bound to be a lengthy process.

That isn't how it works. The grand jury will indict when it has considered all of the evidence, and there's no specific time line for that. It happens when it happens, and Mueller's people don't leak - so we'll know when it happens but there's no way to know when that will be.

Compare this to the pace of Watergate. It is much faster. It might be the culture where people now can binge watch an entire new season of some shows wants something big to happen every day or at least every Friday. In fact, the number of big stories that have been dumped over the last few months is impressive.

What is also clear is that Mueller is very controlled, very precise and very methodical. This is what we want. Look at how the Iran/Contra hearings in the House/Senate investigation ended up giving immunity to people who should have been indicted. (The ones indicted lied not to that high profile hearing, but to the very low key Kerry subcommittee hearings - a fact that should be mentioned every time Elliot Abrams or Oliver North attack John Kerry.)

As soon as Don hits US soil again, I expect the indictment mill will start up again.

just like the investigation into the Valerie Plame revelations. I think there was exactly one indictment, and a lot of people in the Bush administration got completely away with treason.

It could happen again.

I was in surgery for hours longer than anticipated. I had used a Dalkon Shield i.u.d. which had caused numerous infections, which left extensive scar tissue. The surgeon explained that in the effort to make sure they got everything, they had to work through the scar tissue and it was 'all stuck together' so the surgery took much longer.
Mueller has a tissue of lies to sort through. We must try to be patient as he picks through it and makes sure he doesn't miss anything.

from what i read, he has an extremely competent, maybe even formidable, staff, well equipped to engage on issues of foreign-based crimes including money laundering and banking fraud.

i'm confident that Mueller's investigation will proceed on his timetable, with minimal regard for political timing or media-oriented feel good moments. sure, this lets the perps grandstand and bloviate unopposed for a time, but this too shall pass. the time will come when they can no longer fall back on such behavior, and every lie they've told weighs like a cinderblock roped to their ankles.

He seems to be just doing his job.

Just because Roy Moore's sleazy habits are on the front pages this week, I don't the Mueller team has slowed down in the slightest. In fact, I bet they welcome the brief reprieve from the headlines and the spotlight. They'll have enough of both when the next series of indictments are handed down and witnesses called.

the next batch of indictments they will be more than shocking and so complete they can't be challenged.

It does not have to be in the news every day. Remember, 45 and his gang, and several members of the media are doing all they can to knock this off the front pages.

Watergate took two years.

We have GOTV to accomplish, elections to win.

Thanks for your concern.

It’s just me.

We're all impatient but give it time. So many players are involved and the crimes span several countries. My hunch: We'll see some indictments in the next week or so. But it's going to be awhile before it's all finished.

You.

I’m just so scared.

Coverage may wax and wane, but Mueller is plugging away regardless.


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before anything comes of the investigation.

I think it is going at a fine pace. Flynn is obviously up next. After that - the Manafort trial begins in early spring. Hopefully it will start to pick up next summer.

That would be perfect.

It actually seems to be picking up steam as more pieces of evidence become public.

Seems like this is the beginning with a lot more to come soon. The fake is not presidential. Each day is a new revelation of lunacy, craziness, dementia and incompetency and so on.

It might have because of the time factor, but the more the trumpies deny it, scream about it, howl to the moon over it, the more ppl can smell the acrid billows of smoke pouring from the White House.