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VermontKevin

(1,473 posts)
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 07:52 PM Nov 2017

BREAKING: Roy Moore Banned From Gadsen Mall for Trolling Teens:



This past weekend, I spoke or messaged with more than a dozen people—including a major political figure in the state—who told me that they had heard, over the years, that Moore had been banned from the mall because he repeatedly badgered teen-age girls. Some say that they heard this at the time, others in the years since. These people include five members of the local legal community, two cops who worked in the town, several people who hung out at the mall in the early eighties, and a number of former mall employees. (A request for comment from the Moore campaign was not answered.) Several of them asked that I leave their names out of this piece. The stories that they say they’ve heard for years have been swirling online in the days since the Post published its report. “Sources tell me Moore was actually banned from the Gadsden Mall and the YMCA for his inappropriate behavior of soliciting sex from young girls,” the independent Alabama journalist Glynn Wilson wrote on his Web site on Sunday. (Wilson declined to divulge his sources.) Teresa Jones, a deputy district attorney for Etowah County in the early eighties, told CNN last week that “it was common knowledge that Roy dated high-school girls.” Jones told me that she couldn’t confirm the alleged mall banning, but said, “It’s a rumor I’ve heard for years.”

Greg Legat, who is now fifty-nine and living in East Gadsden, was, from 1981 to 1985, an employee at the Record Bar, a store that was in the Gadsden Mall. By the early eighties, Legat told me, the mall was “the place to be. There were no empty stores. And lots of kids came around. Lots of teen-agers. You went there to see and be seen.” Legat met his wife, Jo Anne, there. She worked at a restaurant called Orange Bowl. Legat remembers that parents dropped their kids off at the mall, typically unchaperoned. Teens filled the place.

Legat says that he saw Moore there a few times, even though his understanding then was that he had already been banned. “It started around 1979, I think,” Legat said. “I know the ban was still in place when I got there.” Legat recalled a Gadsden police officer named J. D. Thomas, now retired, who worked security at the mall. “J. D. was a fixture there, when I was working at the store,” Legat said. “He really looked after the kids there. He was a good guy. J. D. told me, ‘If you see Roy, let me know. He’s banned from the mall.’ ” Legat recalled Thomas telling him, “If you see Moore here, tell me. I’ll take care of him.’ ” Legat said that his boss, Eddie Hill, also told him to look for Moore. A phone call to Hill’s number was not returned.


Reached by phone on Saturday, Thomas, who lives in the nearby town of Southside, declined to discuss the existence of a ban on Moore at the Gadsden Mall. “I don’t have anything to say about that,” he said. A former manager of the mall, who began working there in the late eighties, confirmed the existence of a ban list, but did not recall Moore being on the list during the manager’s tenure there. Barnes Boyle, who is eighty-six, also managed the mall, from 1981 to 1998. His wife, Brenda, told me that Moore was a longtime acquaintance of his—they went to the Y.M.C.A. together often—and that he planned to vote for him. The recent allegations against Moore, the Boyles thought, are likely liberal propaganda and, as Brenda put it, “a sign of the times.”



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BREAKING: Roy Moore Banned From Gadsen Mall for Trolling Teens: (Original Post) VermontKevin Nov 2017 OP
woah! More & more proof. Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #1
Moore and Moore, you mean. VermontKevin Nov 2017 #2
Aha! How did I miss that! Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #3
Moore is the Cream of the Republican Crap. Typical Repuk good ole boy. olegramps Nov 2017 #48
But it won't affect their support. Hell, they elected a pervert for president. olegramps Nov 2017 #49
Maybe the fact that she was a child will be the final straw for a few? Ligyron Nov 2017 #52
He's going to lose some people. Just a question of how many. SusanaMontana41 Nov 2017 #64
......but her emails. rofl SummerSnow Nov 2017 #63
I've seen more than a few people offer some twisted justification and excuses for Moore xor Nov 2017 #68
K&R smirkymonkey Nov 2017 #4
Sure enough DFW Nov 2017 #5
Somehow they will blame this on Hillary. Alice11111 Nov 2017 #35
They find a way to blame EVERYTHING on Hillary DFW Nov 2017 #37
I'll look. No matter that the economy & trade thrived Alice11111 Nov 2017 #54
There are some short clips here DFW Nov 2017 #56
Thx for getting. That is scary! Beautiful music to mean words. Alice11111 Nov 2017 #58
Hillary is a distraction DFW Nov 2017 #59
Of course, she's a distraction, but it doesn't mean they Alice11111 Nov 2017 #60
Mnuchin is, as my friends in the UK say, DFW Nov 2017 #61
He even makes Goldman Sachs look bad. Alice11111 Nov 2017 #62
I know no one at Goldman Sachs, but I can imagine DFW Nov 2017 #67
Much of Goldman supported Hillary. Obviously, Scum Alice11111 Nov 2017 #69
Liberal Propaganda SoCalMusicLover Nov 2017 #6
Obama would have Scarsdale Nov 2017 #41
So he was basically the town weirdo/pervert. Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #7
Too bad nobody mentioned this as he acquired more and more power. yardwork Nov 2017 #22
GOP sends their best people, and some are rapists. Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #23
Sad! yardwork Nov 2017 #27
and law school grantcart Nov 2017 #42
No Moore Mendocino Nov 2017 #8
"'Conservative' values" Cary Nov 2017 #9
This is getting crazier and crazier. joshcryer Nov 2017 #10
This and many other characteristic traits are WHY someone is a rightwinger. Eliot Rosewater Nov 2017 #13
Very true. joshcryer Nov 2017 #14
There really is a connection.I've done research and written about it.The perp type is he authoitaria Alice11111 Nov 2017 #36
I know, this guy is out of control. nt Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #16
More political campaigns need to hire private investigators who do more than surf electronic info. NightWatcher Nov 2017 #11
This is why, as a Democrat, I resist those that say that we should nominate someone Blue_true Nov 2017 #50
I would generalize about rightwing men but I will get in trouble if I do. Eliot Rosewater Nov 2017 #12
+1 SunSeeker Nov 2017 #20
Go for it. I doubt you'll get in trouble. yardwork Nov 2017 #25
I'd say you're spot on. paleotn Nov 2017 #29
Get in trouble? cwydro Nov 2017 #51
IF it wasn't true Thomas would have said so malaise Nov 2017 #15
Creepy perverts gonna be creepy perverts. Initech Nov 2017 #17
By 1980 apparently the whole damn town knew he wasn't to be trusted near teen girls. herding cats Nov 2017 #18
I know. I wish I could say I was surprised. yardwork Nov 2017 #26
Someone should check to see if there are Mr. Evil Nov 2017 #19
I'd set up EXTRA security and surveillance if I were they. sandensea Nov 2017 #21
One pervert in a state of pervets... paleotn Nov 2017 #24
Greedy Ole Pedophiles lagomorph777 Nov 2017 #44
All Malls should ban him and yuiyoshida Nov 2017 #28
That makes me think better of the people down there for sure. It could be his being an brewens Nov 2017 #30
His being an assistant DA made it ALL THE MORE URGENT thucythucy Nov 2017 #45
They should check to see if he had coached young boys or anything like that as well. n/t brewens Nov 2017 #47
This is an excellent article, well-written and informative. It should be read all the way through. NBachers Nov 2017 #31
He was also banned from the YMCA, too. . . DinahMoeHum Nov 2017 #32
OMG! Busted! Nitram Nov 2017 #33
Gonna get all Paul Blart on his ass Blue Owl Nov 2017 #34
See what liberal loose morals and general Godlessness leads to? IronLionZion Nov 2017 #38
+1! KPN Nov 2017 #39
It's a good thing they have a monopoly on Christian values and morality... kentuck Nov 2017 #40
Does the Lord they profess to Scarsdale Nov 2017 #43
Or a Chuckie Cheese? ... eom Kolesar Nov 2017 #46
Even more reasons for conservatives to vote for him! Kablooie Nov 2017 #53
Moore is a bonafide sexual predator. liberalmuse Nov 2017 #55
But he's part of the Southern Good Ol' Boys Club so it's all good! Initech Nov 2017 #66
Just to say how weird this is.... Sancho Nov 2017 #57
"Ladies and gentlemen, the junior senator from 95% of Alabama!" unhip white guy Nov 2017 #65
Shouldn't the title be "trolling FOR teens?" Pluvious Nov 2017 #70

xor

(1,204 posts)
68. I've seen more than a few people offer some twisted justification and excuses for Moore
Wed Nov 15, 2017, 12:53 PM
Nov 2017

This person is a real peach. This comment is the one that started it, though.







I would think both these guys were wind-up accounts, but they both seem to be real people. Not sure how we're supposed to deal with those sorts of people

DFW

(54,515 posts)
5. Sure enough
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 07:59 PM
Nov 2017

It was a Republican doing the molesting, it can't have happened, and whatever DID happen, it's all the fault of the libbruls.

IOKIYAR

DFW

(54,515 posts)
37. They find a way to blame EVERYTHING on Hillary
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 08:36 AM
Nov 2017

Or Bill.

I can't play them all from Germany, but if you search "The Freedom Toast" and "Bill Clinton is to Blame-O" there is a song about how everything since destruction of Po,peii is blamed on Bill Clinton (also: "Faulting Bill Clinton" to the tune of "Waltzing Matilda&quot

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
54. I'll look. No matter that the economy & trade thrived
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 04:09 PM
Nov 2017

under Bill. That's probably why they do it because none of those greedy bastards can come close to doing what he did. Plus, look at their sex scandals...pedophilia.

HYPOCRICY, that is what the Repubs stand for

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
58. Thx for getting. That is scary! Beautiful music to mean words.
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 04:39 PM
Nov 2017

Reminds me of the 3rd Reich.The Diebold recognizes that they don't want to count the votes or leave a paper trail. Merry Christmas. Wow! They are so malicious and it's obviously gone on for years.

No telling what they will try to do to Hillary now, with the new scam investigating.

DFW

(54,515 posts)
59. Hillary is a distraction
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 04:45 PM
Nov 2017

If Trump and Sessions weren't in peril, they wouldn't even remember Hillary's name.

Here is the Republican Christmas song, by the way. Careful, it is rather biting (though true).

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
60. Of course, she's a distraction, but it doesn't mean they
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 04:58 PM
Nov 2017

won't tar and feather her.

Very fitting. Parasites. I've heard rich Repubs say coach roaches, moocher scum in reference to people without money, and other darlings. Moochers and parasites are fav words from those so entitled with wealth.

Best example is Mnuchin and his wife, putting a price tag on all of the designer items she was wearing, while planning on the USAF jet for their honeymoon or to watch the eclipse.

DFW

(54,515 posts)
61. Mnuchin is, as my friends in the UK say,
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 04:59 PM
Nov 2017

"a real piece of work."

And they do NOT mean it in a positive way.

DFW

(54,515 posts)
67. I know no one at Goldman Sachs, but I can imagine
Wed Nov 15, 2017, 12:27 PM
Nov 2017

Their reputation has been somewhat less than sterling of late, and I don't even think it is a felony in Greece any more of someone identifies themselves as a partner in Goldman Sachs and they meet with a fatal assault.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
69. Much of Goldman supported Hillary. Obviously, Scum
Wed Nov 15, 2017, 06:55 PM
Nov 2017

Munuchin only supports himself and his entitled friends and price tag wife.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
36. There really is a connection.I've done research and written about it.The perp type is he authoitaria
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 04:15 AM
Nov 2017

figure, respected occupation or position in the church, commands respect and trust, brandishes and hides behind religion, etc.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
11. More political campaigns need to hire private investigators who do more than surf electronic info.
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 08:05 PM
Nov 2017

I've spent my career talking to people about other people. I hope more campaigns hire investigators who will do more than a five minute online search.

All this took was the Wash Post talking in person to 30 people.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
50. This is why, as a Democrat, I resist those that say that we should nominate someone
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 03:21 PM
Nov 2017

that has had issues keeping their pants or dress on. We got away with that once, never again. With unfaithful people, two affairs is just the tip of an iceberg. A good PI will find the truth and hurt us with it.

yardwork

(61,795 posts)
25. Go for it. I doubt you'll get in trouble.
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 09:28 PM
Nov 2017

Rightwingers in general tend to be perverts. I've noticed it.

herding cats

(19,569 posts)
18. By 1980 apparently the whole damn town knew he wasn't to be trusted near teen girls.
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 08:27 PM
Nov 2017

And yet, this predatory pervert was twice elected (and removed) Chief Justice of the Alabama Supreme Court of Alabama, and is now their candidate for the US Senate.

Value Voters are such hypocrites.

Mr. Evil

(2,865 posts)
19. Someone should check to see if there are
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 08:47 PM
Nov 2017

any memos archived from the Gadsden Mall from the time period in question regarding the banning of Roy Moore from the premises. If there is it sure would be enlightening, wouldn't it.

sandensea

(21,720 posts)
21. I'd set up EXTRA security and surveillance if I were they.
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 09:25 PM
Nov 2017

And not because Roy-boy might try to violate said ban; but because he's got an army of deplorables ready to commit violence no matter what the cost.

paleotn

(18,015 posts)
24. One pervert in a state of pervets...
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 09:28 PM
Nov 2017

Since many seem to have no problem with this, I can only believe they are acquiescent of such behavior. No all in Bama, but a significant numbers. Dare I say a majority? And what does that say about the Republican party? Grand Ole Pedophiles?

brewens

(13,671 posts)
30. That makes me think better of the people down there for sure. It could be his being an
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 09:41 PM
Nov 2017

assistant DA was the only thing keeping him from getting his ass kicked.

I did predict right at the start that it would be well known. I think that was why some republicans came out right away, even if they hedged it a bit by saying he should step down "if the allegations were true". If they didn't already know, they asked around and found out the rumors had been going around for years.

thucythucy

(8,135 posts)
45. His being an assistant DA made it ALL THE MORE URGENT
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 12:53 PM
Nov 2017

that his (alleged) deviant and dangerous behavior be called out.

Law enforcement officers must be held to a higher standard, since we as a society allow them so much authority and power. He was evidently definitely abusing his position in order to attack vulnerable teens ("I'm the DA, and no one will believe you.&quot

This is like every other scandal where abuse by powerful people is known and ignored, placing more vulnerable people at risk.

The people--the adults--who weren't his victims--but who knew what he was doing should have brought this to the attention of Alabama law enforcement. And if Alabamans couldn't handle it, then the FBI.

How many more teens were victimized by this creep, and all because people "knew" he was creepy but decided not to act.

Question: did he work with any church youth groups?

DinahMoeHum

(21,839 posts)
32. He was also banned from the YMCA, too. . .
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 10:14 PM
Nov 2017
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/locals-were-troubled-by-roy-moores-interactions-with-teen-girls-at-the-gadsden-mall/amp

(snip)
“Sources tell me Moore was actually banned from the Gadsden Mall and the YMCA for his inappropriate behavior of soliciting sex from young girls,” the independent Alabama journalist Glynn Wilson wrote on his Web site on Sunday. (Wilson declined to divulge his sources.)
(snip)

IronLionZion

(45,667 posts)
38. See what liberal loose morals and general Godlessness leads to?
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 09:42 AM
Nov 2017

Those scandalous young ladies luring a poor innocent man to the mall to seduce him so often they had to ban him for his own protection. Why did Hillary arrange for this to happen back in the 70s?



People knew he was a pervert/weirdo back then. They knew it was wrong!

kentuck

(111,111 posts)
40. It's a good thing they have a monopoly on Christian values and morality...
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 09:53 AM
Nov 2017

Otherwise, people might think less of them...

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
43. Does the Lord they profess to
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 11:26 AM
Nov 2017

worship condone this, I wonder? Don't parents there protect their kids against creeps such as this? Old habits die hard, I wonder WHO he is abusing now?

Kablooie

(18,648 posts)
53. Even more reasons for conservatives to vote for him!
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 03:43 PM
Nov 2017

The more criminal he is the more popular he becomes with Trump's base.

liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)
55. Moore is a bonafide sexual predator.
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 04:16 PM
Nov 2017

It is pretty disgusting that a lot of so called "Christians" want him to represent them. Moore should be in the sexual predator databases.

I'm a bit concerned that if he is elected, a lot of predatory-inclined men and borderline-predatory men who would not normally act on their impulses will see it as a go ahead to sexually assault children. Let's face it, it happened with Trump and his racist supporters. Hate crimes have been on the rise since he came on the scene as a candidate and now president. We need to nip this in the bud. I can't believe we have to tell people in the 21st century that sexually assaulting children is inappropriate. It's mind boggling. Wake me the f*ck up!

Sancho

(9,072 posts)
57. Just to say how weird this is....
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 04:35 PM
Nov 2017

I've never been banned from a mall or YMCA...

Have any of you ever been banned?

 

unhip white guy

(78 posts)
65. "Ladies and gentlemen, the junior senator from 95% of Alabama!"
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 06:35 PM
Nov 2017

I'm assuming there's gonna be more places banning him.

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