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By Fred Hiatt Editorial Page Editor November 19 at 7:14 PM
Did Russia get its moneys worth?
Vladimir Putin got taken for a ride: Thats one view. A year after Putin did his best to tip the U.S. election to Donald Trump, economic sanctions remain in place on his regime and U.S.-Russia relations have hardly thawed. But I think to grade Putin only on that bilateral measure is to sell him short. When he ordered his KGB successor agencies to intervene in the election, he had much broader aims. Lets look at a fuller report card, one year in, based on three goals he likely set himself remembering that were not even one-quarter of the way through this course.
Goal: Diminish U.S. leadership in the world.
Here Putin must be delighted. The Trump administration in one year has undermined U.S. leadership in ways Russia in a decade couldnt have accomplished on its own.
Trump withdrew the United States from the Trans-Pacific Partnership with 11 nations desperate for U.S. protection in confronting Chinese dominance. This month we saw some results: eleven nations signing a TPP agreement without the United States. China strutting across the Asian stage as the undisputed kingpin. Trump finding no takers for his offer of bilateral trade deals.
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Turbineguy
(37,421 posts)putting Trump in there.
Igel
(35,390 posts)Badly.
Trump support was "job 3", a late addition to the list of tasks, with "actually get him elected" being on the "wouldn't this be cool, but it's not going to happen" list.
1. Weaken US--trust in electoral system, increase divisions.
2. Hurt HRC's prospects.
3. Help Trump.
Notice that until the primaries were over, #2 meant helping a variety of people. After the primaries were over, #2 = #3.
As for being "pro-Trump" in general, remember what the social media hearings "revealed"? That within a day or two after Trump was elected--not inaugurated, mind you--a large portion of the pro-Trump sources went anti-Trump.
Why?
Because creating and deepening dissent against an elected president, any elected president, helps paralyze a country's politics. If you create deep enough divisions in society, the society is so focused on internal fighting that by the time they realize there's an external threat the external threat has some pretty nifty advantages.
For example, Trump's attitudes. Or the foolish assertion that "Russia's not a foe", which, when believed, let a foe do pretty much what it wanted, unimpeded. Because the most important enemy is still internal.
Turbineguy
(37,421 posts)Gothmog
(145,977 posts)Zoonart
(11,920 posts)sofa king
(10,857 posts)... is that the Russian economy was effectively created by American economists, who made sure to put a lot of Russian eggs in the world markets and knit it all together with quiet American financial backing.
So if those tax cuts pass and the US economy inevitably crashes, as it always does when the wealthiest Americans move into their predatory profit-taking behavior, the Russians are tied to the same boat-anchor.
I think it's entirely possible that Russian strategic goals, particularly a permanent naval base in Syria and an official transfer of the Crimea back to them, will be achieved, with their American puppet's total consent. But any exploitation from that improved strategic position will prove impossible because of domestic economic concerns.
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)He lies to everyone. Why would Pooty Poot be any different?
* republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief
Kleveland
(1,257 posts)This artificial Democratic hit job gets in the way, Trump told reporters aboard Air Force One on the way to Hanoi, Vietnam. It gets in the way. And thats a shame. Because people will die because of it.
And who knows who the bad guys really are?
Or should I say who knows how many bad guys there really are?
On both sides of the fence.