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MineralMan

(146,354 posts)
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 10:29 AM Nov 2017

My first wife worked as a cocktail waitress for a while.

We were still college students, and the money was needed. The place was a popular restaurant and bar in a nearby town. One night, she came home and told me about a regular customer in the bar who grabbed her butt as she walked by. To say she was pissed off would be a major understatement.

He was there almost every evening in the bar, she told me, but this was the first time he'd actually groped her. She said that he was constantly making sexually-demeaning remarks, though.

So, I decided I'd hang out at that bar for a few evenings while she worked. It didn't take long. The same guy did the same thing again to her, and she protested loudly. I clearly remember her saying, "Keep your hands to yourself, you boxhead motherfucker!" This time, though, I was there. I walked over to the table where the man sat and introduced myself as her husband. I asked him pointedly why he had done that. Did he think it was funny? Did he think it was going to get him anywhere? I explained in no uncertain terms why his behavior was not acceptable in any way.

I wasn't quiet about it, either. Pretty soon, the bar manager showed up. He wasn't amused, because everyone in the place was watching me go after that asshole.

The result? The bar manager tossed the guy and banned him from the bar. My wife kept her job, and things quieted down there among the regular patrons. The sad thing is that anything like that was necessary.

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MineralMan

(146,354 posts)
2. Yeah...that wouldn't have accomplished anything.
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 10:34 AM
Nov 2017

I'm not a violent person in any way, although it might have appeared to that guy that I might be. I used public humiliation, instead. It works better than violence in such situations, i think.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,128 posts)
3. My comment wasn't a criticism of your actions... you accomplished your goal.
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 10:37 AM
Nov 2017

But, then, so would a broken nose... to each his own I guess.

MineralMan

(146,354 posts)
4. Except that I probably would have been arrested.
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 10:38 AM
Nov 2017

That didn't seem like a good thing to me at the time.

dalton99a

(81,708 posts)
6. Rape in the storage room. Groping at the bar. Why is the restaurant industry so terrible for women?
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 10:45 AM
Nov 2017
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/food/rape-in-the-storage-room-groping-at-the-bar-why-is-the-restaurant-industry-so-terrible-for-women/2017/11/17/54a1d0f2-c993-11e7-b0cf-7689a9f2d84e_story.html
Rape in the storage room. Groping at the bar. Why is the restaurant industry so terrible for women?
By Maura Judkis and Emily Heil | November 17

If you’re a woman, what makes a restaurant dangerous isn’t the sharp knives or the hot griddle: It’s an isolated area of the kitchen, like the dry storage pantry.

That’s where Miranda Rosenfelt, 31, then a cook at Jackie’s restaurant in Silver Spring, was headed one day seven years ago to help with inventory, at the request of one of her direct supervisors, who she says had been harassing her for months. When she walked into the narrow basement room, far from the bustle of the kitchen, she turned around to find him “standing there with his pants on the floor, and his penis in his hands,” blocking her exit from the basement, she said.

“I felt cornered, and trapped, and scared, and what ended up happening was that he got me to perform oral sex, and it was horrible. And the whole time he was saying things like, ‘Oh, I’ve always wanted to do this.’ ” Her instinct was “not to do anything, and wait for it to be over. Because that’s what will make me the safest.”

Or maybe the dangerous place is the walk-in cooler. That’s where chef Maya ­Rotman-Zaid, 36, says she was cornered once about 12 years ago, by a co-worker who tried to grope her. But after years of working in kitchens with handsy, misbehaving men, she had remembered an anecdote from Anthony Bourdain’s “Kitchen Confidential,” in which the famous chef struck back after being grabbed repeatedly by a colleague.

mopinko

(70,394 posts)
10. i once worked in a restaurant at the top of a very tall building.
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 11:19 AM
Nov 2017

got grabbed in the elevator by a dishwasher.
i had been nice to him, as a dishwasher can be a big help to a busy cook. but he took it the wrong way, as men do.

fortunately, the boss sent him packing within minutes of telling him what happened. i was surprised, esp cuz it was the beginning of the shift, and being short a dishwasher makes it hard.

of course, the sous chef who hit on every woman under 50 in the kitchen got away w it. retaliated when he got shut down, too. retaliated in a way that hurt the work flow of the kitchen. but yeah.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
8. One reason I tip well. I've seen too many guys think waitresses are easy marks.
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 11:03 AM
Nov 2017

It's a tough enough job without that junk. I'm sure waitresses, etc., smile through that stuff to keep their job, but I empathize.

MineralMan

(146,354 posts)
9. It is a tough job. Getting groped and listening to
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 11:08 AM
Nov 2017

sexual references seems to be part of most cocktail waitresses experience. As always, it's a small minority of men who do such things, but alcohol seems to disinhibit some people. A well-run place has zero tolerance for that kind of behavior, though.

At the place my wife worked, the waitresses didn't wear revealing clothing, and the expectation was that the place catered to a well-behaved clientele. The uniform for waitresses there was calf-length Gunne Sax prairie dresses. It was a bar for an expensive restaurant in a tourist community, not a dive bar.

Some men, I guess, just can't restrain themselves. The one in question learned a lesson, I hope.

niyad

(113,990 posts)
13. years ago, a friend was a cocktail waitress in a poker room. one night, as she was
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 02:47 PM
Nov 2017

serving drinks, one of the poker players put his hand up her skirt and groped her butt. she didn't say anything.

however, when she was serving the next round, she accidentally spilled some very hot coffee in his lap. oooops... he did not return.

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